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To: GOPcapitalist

Those questions are of interest but are not an adequate response to the well known FACT that fugative slaves were one of the Slavers' greatest problems. In addition, in the state of Virginia freed slaves were NOT ALLOWED to stay there by state law. Besides comparing a free man's actions to those of a slave is silly.


405 posted on 11/19/2004 11:30:30 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
n addition, in the state of Virginia freed slaves were NOT ALLOWED to stay there by state law.

Actually that law was extremely nuanced, had certain exemptions to it, did not affect free blacks already living there, and permitted a substantial grace period (a year IIRC). Compare that to Illinois where virtually ANY black who entered the state's borders and remained for more than about a week was automatically a criminal who could then be sold at public auction into indentured servitude. Before the war Maryland seems to have been the best place for free blacks to live as indicated by the fact that it had the largest free black population.

406 posted on 11/19/2004 11:38:28 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
In addition, in the state of Virginia freed slaves were NOT ALLOWED to stay there by state law.

Such laws were common in the South.

The salient point, as our friend has pointed out, is that free States also had such laws, which would seem to be absurd on the face of it.

The fact is that such laws weren't about slavery so much as race. Slavery was the background, but race was on the point of the legislation.

431 posted on 11/19/2004 6:17:59 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; GOPcapitalist
[jsuati #405] Those questions are of interest but are not an adequate response to the well known FACT that fugative slaves were one of the Slavers' greatest problems.

Regarding your purportedly "well known" but undocumented "FACT" there is the much better known and very well documented fact of the CENSUS of 1860. The TOTAL Black population in the FREE states was 221,224. If runaway slaves were as great a problem as you purport, WHERE WERE THEY????

The FREE states had a TOTAL FREE BLACK population of 221,224 as of 1860.

CA   4,086
CT   8,627
IL   7,628
IN  11,428
IA   1,069
ME   1,327
MA   9,602
MI   6,799
MN     259
NH     494
NJ  25,318
NY  45,005
OH  36,673
OR     128
PA  56,949
RI   3,952
VT     709
WI   1,171

TL 221,224

437 posted on 11/19/2004 9:50:55 PM PST by nolu chan
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