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To: justshutupandtakeit
what UTTER NONSENSE.

you are an obvious victim of the "publick screwls edumakashun sistim".

and a victim of the REVISIONIST/socialist/communist/damnyankee-elite's LEFT's propaganda machine.

go read some TRADITIONAL scholars about the 19th century & the struggle for dixie FREEDOM from northern oppression & come back here. we'll talk then.

free dixie,sw

308 posted on 11/18/2004 7:52:11 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
Here you go mad man. Maybe you can get uncle ed dig the microfilm out of the national archives.

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It is often a surprise to those just starting out but the Five Civilized Tribes were one of the largest owner of slaves. As I have stated before, many of the tribe’s men were farmers and wealthy plantation owners. Slaves were used on the large plantation prior to the Civil war, and when the Cherokee were removed to Indian Territory many of these slaves went with them. On the Henderson roll you can find out who was a slave owner by checking the records. Georgia lists a total of 776, Alabama 299, Tennessee 480 and North Carolina only 22. The total slave population in 1835 was listed as 1,592! Though names were not listed on the Henderson roll for the slaves, it can serve as a good outline for which of the families you may want to research. If you have gotten back this far in your research I strongly suggest trying to obtain wills or slave inventories for your suspected slave owner. Often these will give you a great deal of information on the family that you are looking for.

There are several different rolls that were taken in the west, starting with the 1867 Tompkin roll, this roll includes Cherokees, slaves and intermarried whites. It is available through the National archives Microfilm #7RA-04. There is a special index (National Archives microfilm 7RA-51) listed for the Freedmen, a term used to indicate that they were ex-slaves of the Five Civilized Tribes. The 1880 census and the 1890 Cherokee Nation census that I have transcribed also lists the Freedmen. There are several other rolls that were also available including the 1890 Wallace roll (National Archives microfilm 7RA-51) and the 1896 Clifton/Kern roll.

Source: http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/OCEsite/GoHome/NativeAmericanlesson2.pdf

312 posted on 11/18/2004 8:01:11 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: stand watie

I am sure my education is far better than yours in almost every area including history. However, the public schooling I enjoyed was in a little town in southern Arkansas where your brew of bilge was happily swallowed. Anti-Black and anti-Yankee hatred was part of the culture I was raised in.

What you consider Marxist, Revisionist, socialist, communist are just viewpoints you can't refute so you have to lower yourself to raving and screeching. You won't find me calling your sources "fascist" or "nazi" simply because they are easy to refute.

Your idea of "traditional" scholars are just crackpots on the fringe of scholarly research generally just laughable cranks without a clue.


316 posted on 11/18/2004 8:08:56 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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