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"The primary motivator of secession was not getting waxed across the board, on all issues, and becoming a colonial economy under the heel of manifestly hostile economic and political interests in other states. The evidence of this shift of motive from the time of the Lecompton controversy to the eve of secession has been propounded to you, it has been documented to you. You insist, however, on retailing for polemical effect discredited Marxist arguments about economic determinism and "it was all about slavery", because you see the slavery issue as a good moral issue for beating the South over the head."

I will admit that you are well-schooled in blending revisionist history (from the James Garfield Randall school) with more modern marxist polemics. But your argument falls flat when the words of those who led secession are reviewed. And I don't mean their post-war apologies. I mean the very words they used at the time to justify to the southerners why they were taking the actions they took. Your "it was all about slavery" strawman fails, because you constantly link it to northern motivation as well.

"You have repeatedly shown that you care less what the issues were, than in pushing your beef. We exist. Get over it. Southerners aren't going to eat rat poison because you don't like our old flag, don't like the way we talk, and don't like the fact that people drive around with (full) gun racks in their pickup trucks."

You need to sniff some vapors, dearie, you're getting hysterical. I have ZERO animus toward southerners. I am married to a southerner. I have lived and worked in the south (if you want to consider Texas a part of the south). I am descended, in part, from southerners. I couldn't care less about the old flags - they are part of a heritage. And I couldn't care less about your vehicles and how you are armed. (In fact, the more arms the better!)

You would be hard-pressed to find a post by me that denigrates southern culture. Or find a post where I denigrate the confederate soldier or sailor who served honorably. You will find plenty of posts where I take exception to those who glorify the treasonable actions of those who led the southern rebellion. And you will find plenty of posts by me where I slam those who were unfaithful to the founding principles of the nation.

Perhaps that is too fine a distinction for you to understand.