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To: capitan_refugio
The statement I made was that people who deny the fundamental truth of the slavery-secession link are not unlike those who deny the European Holocaust.

And that statement is untrue.

The comparison was between those who deny obvious truth - and to go to great lengths to do so.

No it wan't -- it was a moral equation between Southerners who don't accept the triumphalist Rushmore canon and skinheaded Holocaust-deniers who wave old Imperial German Navy ensigns and keep Nazi flags in their closets.

It was not a comparison between southerners and nazis. That is your perverted interpretation.

If you wanted to talk about wrongheadedness, you'd have spoken of schismatic Montanists, Donatists, and Gnostics. You'd have talked about Manichaean oversimplification, or factional polemicists feeding on subtle distinctions, like the Arians and the Hesychasmists. You'd have talked about the factiousness of legitimist movements like the Jacobites and the Yellow Turbans. You'd have talked about wrongheadedness and the Dunsmen, or Dunses -- modern "dunces" -- who persisted for generations in following Duns Scotus.

But you talked about Holocaust deniers. Neo-Nazis. It wasn't an accident.

267 posted on 11/17/2004 10:07:46 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"And that statement is untrue."

Only in your opinion. I demonstrated the similarities.

"No it wan't -- it was a moral equation between Southerners who don't accept the triumphalist Rushmore canon and skinheaded Holocaust-deniers who wave old Imperial German Navy ensigns and keep Nazi flags in their closets."

I drew no such equation. It should suffice to say, however, we both know there are those who have no qualms flying a swastika with the CBF. Anti-Americans. Not a nice crowd to run with.

"If you wanted to talk about wrongheadedness, you'd have spoken of schismatic Montanists, Donatists, and Gnostics. You'd have talked about Manichaean oversimplification, or factional polemicists feeding on subtle distinctions, like the Arians and the Hesychasmists. You'd have talked about the factiousness of legitimist movements like the Jacobites and the Yellow Turbans. You'd have talked about wrongheadedness and the Dunsmen, or Dunses -- modern "dunces" -- who persisted for generations in following Duns Scotus."

What a mouthful - no wonder you haven't posted to the thread ina couple of days. I haven't had such a good laugh ... well ... since the last time you posted.

Let's get back to basics.

Slavery was important to the southern elite. So important they were willing to break up the Union and risk war to protect it. They chose poorly.

272 posted on 11/18/2004 12:16:40 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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