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To: GOPcapitalist; capitan_refugio
And maybe those events, while bad and scandalous did not reach the level of Impeachement. ...or perhaps they did but the congress at the time simply lacked the backbone or partisan makeup to carry through with it much like the US Senate lacked the backbone to convict Clinton.

They got him impeached didn't they?

Congress is a fundamentally political institution and, being one, they can and do opt for lesser but nevertheless certain expressions of disapproval than the extremely rare act of impeachment.

And Congress is suppose to be the check on Presidental tyranny via impeachment.

Sorry, that your accusations against Lincoln have no historical validity, but you just go on continue living in the world of fantasy.

However, Clinton did get impeached for lying under oath. Clinton got impeached on two counts - perjury and obstruction of justice.

Lincoln did not. I don't believe Lincoln ever testified before a court on one of the many cases involving him thus the occasion for perjury would not arise. He did indeed obstruct justice though to the point of using military officers to harrass sitting judges, unconstitutionally suspending their salaries, and impeding their rulings from being carried out and their membership from meeting. Lincoln's obstruction of justice in those regards actually exceed Clinton's in severity.

I guess Congress did not see it that way.

Events were a little different, like a Civil War going on.

1,857 posted on 11/30/2004 11:26:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
They got him impeached didn't they?

The House did. The Senate still failed in its duty to convict even though Clinton was clearly guilty of the charges. It failed to convict for political reasons amounting to a combination of RINOs and Clinton partisans who would not convict a member of their own party if it meant letting him off the hook for murder.

And Congress is suppose to be the check on Presidental tyranny via impeachment.

Supposed to, but as we know from the Clinton case Congress often falls short of completing the task.

Sorry, that your accusations against Lincoln have no historical validity, but you just go on continue living in the world of fantasy.

More needless venom and invective, this time of the gratuitous sort.

Events were a little different, like a Civil War going on.

...or one of your own party being in the White House combined with the lingering threat of outright political persecution for members of the opposition party who spoke out too much or too loudly (Lincoln had the opposition leader Rep. Clement Vallandigham seized from his house, thrown in jail, and deported to canada). He also had hundreds of opposition newspapers shut down, an opposition U.S. senator expelled from the senate, another opposition former U.S. senator arrested, and half the maryland legislature put in chains.

1,859 posted on 11/30/2004 11:41:03 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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