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To: fortheDeclaration; nolu chan
You seem to be greatly offended!

Offended at what? Your childish behavior? Please. You give yourself far too much credit.

You have little problem with insulting others

And I insulted you exactly how? By accurately describing your antics for what they are? Yet you're the one accusing me of thin skin...

You might note that I am not pinging you, but you are pinging me. I am simply replying.

Would that be a #3ping?

(NC - take note above. Sound familiar?)

You are attempting to prove what is unprovable since it is wrong. Lincoln was not a tyrant by any objective usage of the word.

I see you've picked up El Capitan's habit of affirming the consequent. In this case you construct an argument in which the association between Lincoln and tyranny is arbitrarily designated as "wrong," followed by an attempted proof of it on its very own consequent - your arbitrary assertion that Lincoln was not a tyrant! Funny how those things work out that way...

Congress was not opposing him in his efforts to save the Union, including in the suspension of the Writ.

Then why on earth did they kill his bill asking for a suspension?

1,839 posted on 11/30/2004 9:43:36 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist; capitan_refugio
You seem to be greatly offended! Offended at what? Your childish behavior? Please. You give yourself far too much credit. You have little problem with insulting others And I insulted you exactly how? By accurately describing your antics for what they are? Yet you're the one accusing me of thin skin...

Not at all, I will not go back to the old posts and show what you wrote, it is a waste of a time, since rewriting history seems to be one of your favorite pastimes.

You might note that I am not pinging you, but you are pinging me. I am simply replying. Would that be a #3ping? (NC - take note above. Sound familiar?)

What ping are you talking about?

I have about three pings of yours to one of mine.

You are attempting to prove what is unprovable since it is wrong. Lincoln was not a tyrant by any objective usage of the word. I see you've picked up El Capitan's habit of affirming the consequent. In this case you construct an argument in which the association between Lincoln and tyranny is arbitrarily designated as "wrong," followed by an attempted proof of it on its very own consequent - your arbitrary assertion that Lincoln was not a tyrant! Funny how those things work out that way...

That is what is known as doubletalk

By any objective meaning of the historical usage of the word tyranny, Lincoln would not be considered one.

Only in the delusional world of pristine libertarinism where any Gov't by nature is considered such, or in the neo-confederate world of make believe, would such a charge even get a hearing

Congress was not opposing him in his efforts to save the Union, including in the suspension of the Writ. Then why on earth did they kill his bill asking for a suspension

Did they impeach him for the suspension?

Congress had the power to do so, did they not?

As protecters of the Constitution they should have, if he was committing these crimes, using a power they should have only used?

No impeachment, no opposition from Congress.

No case.

Lincoln's post-war criticism came is only from the judical branch, who were afraid that a Lincoln may not be President in the next crises and not use the power in suspension of the writ, in the limited matter that Lincoln did.

1,843 posted on 11/30/2004 10:02:18 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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