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To: GOPcapitalist
"Actually, he disobeyed five federal court orders and was found by one federal court to have illegally arrested the judicial process. So, as usual, you are simply wrong or fibbing."

You make an allegation. What were the penalties?

"Sec. 17. And be it further enacted, That all the courts of the United States shall have power to grant new trials, in cases where there has been a trial by jury for reasons for which new trials have usually been granted in the courts of law; and shall have power to impose and administer all necessary oaths or affirmations, and to punish by fine or imprisonment, at the discretion of said courts, all contempts of authority in any cause or hearing before the same;"

But none of the judges went so far as to hold the President in contempt of court. If they did, please show the citation.

"They were [impeachable actions]."

List for me the felonies (high crimes) Lincoln committed. Where are the criminal charges?

1,719 posted on 11/29/2004 1:37:25 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
You make an allegation. What were the penalties?

Did you not read the Judiciary Act again, capitan? The punishment for impeding the process of the federal judiciary is "at the discretion of said courts."

But none of the judges went so far as to hold the President in contempt of court. If they did, please show the citation.

Incorrect. They (1) ruled him to have illegally arrested the process of the court (which would qualify as a contempt of the court's authority) and (2) ruled him to have directly assumed the responsibility of Porter, who they had ruled in contempt of court. I've already given you the citation...twice...and you've chosen to ignore it...twice.

List for me the felonies (high crimes) Lincoln committed.

First off, the terms "felony" and "high crime," though related, are NOT interchangably synonymous. The term "high crimes and misdemeanors" is to be read as a phrase having come from a similar phrase in English common law, not in its subdivided parts. As for the high crimes and misdemeanors he committed, they are found in his willful arrest and obstruction of the legal processes of the federal judiciary.

1,732 posted on 11/29/2004 5:17:16 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: capitan_refugio
List for me the felonies (high crimes) Lincoln committed. Where are the criminal charges?

List for me the felonies (high crimes) SOUTHERNERS committed. Where are the criminal charges?

1,765 posted on 11/30/2004 6:06:00 AM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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