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To: Veto!

Circulate it as you will but you cannot understand what it says without some analysis. There is nothing there which can contradict the FACT that slaves were kept in a state of terror and watched at all times for fear they would escape North. Yes, escape to that hell hole your quote describes. Now why would that be the greatest threat to the Slavers if they treated their chattel so well? Surely they wouldn't leave such a paradise.

Southern society was geared to control of the slaves and to that end it repressed the slave's ability to educate himself and become a full man. This was a TOTALLY different form of slavery than that described earlier in ancient Greece and Rome where the slave was often more educated than the master.

Uncles Tom's Cabin brought the reality of slavery home to millions in the North but was too explosive for the Southern states to allow it to circulate freely. While the character of Simon Legree may not have been an accurate representation of overseers even GWTW has characters like him in it.

This was a degenerate economic system which created a social and cultural anchor on the USA and was in complete contradiction to the meaning of America. Had it not been destroyed the Nation would have been.


158 posted on 11/15/2004 2:31:48 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Uncles Tom's Cabin brought the reality of slavery home to millions in the North"

What a load of CRAP! Uncle Tom's Cabin was written with the melodrama calculated to get people up in arms. If you believe Uncle Tom's Cabin was the truth, then I have a bridge to sell you. If one looks at the situation logically, it wouldn't make any sense for someone to beat and injure the very people they are depending upon to bring in the crops or tend the household. Now there may have been few isloated incidents of abject cruelty, but normally the plantation slaves were treated with a degree of respect and affection. If that were not the case, then why did so many blacks choose to stay with their former masters after emancipation?

Go peddle your Yankee PC revisionist crap elsewhere, we ain't buying it here.

161 posted on 11/15/2004 4:52:40 PM PST by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
This was a TOTALLY different form of slavery than that described earlier in ancient Greece and Rome where the slave was often more educated than the master.

Why do you insist on putting your ignorance on display?

Agricultural, quarry, and mining slaves have always been very badly treated, whether Roman villani or the poor Greek slaves in the silver-mines of Naxos, I think it was, who extended their deep shafts too far and had the Mediterranean Sea break in on them. A recent article in Archaeology about the silver-mines of the Laurion Peninsula showed how narrow those ancient adits were -- a person couldn't stand up in them, nor turn around. Even with the advantages of battery-powered fluorescent lighting and flashlights, the archaeologists who investigate those old mines today assure us it's still a very creepy environment, not at all for the faint of heart. What it must have been like to hear the roar of seawater breaking into shafts that were above and behind you must have been just unimaginable.

The Romans kept their villani in tiger cages and worked them like road gangs. Men who weren't savages when they went into the fields, became savages -- hence the stock medieval morality-play character, the villain. It was slaves like these that Spartacus raised during the Servile War in 71 B.C.

176 posted on 11/15/2004 6:48:11 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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