[Gianni]

I regard any American who fires on the troops of his nation as a traitor and I do not care what State he comes from or what he thinks his 'new'nation is.

I see that we've essentially avoided the question that I posed considering whether Americans are best considered as subjects of their governmnet, only to go on posting as though the answer were given and decided definitive.

[fortheDeclaration]

I see that we've essentially avoided the question that I posed considering whether Americans are best considered as subjects of their governmnet, only to go on posting as though the answer were given and decided definitive.

Because the question of Americans being only 'subjects'of their gov't is decided by Revolution.

If it comes to that where the Gov't becomes so tyrannical that no other recourse is left, then the people have a right to change their gov't by force if necessary.

No such condition existed in 1860.