[fortheDeclaration]

The CSA had one foreign power give outright diplomatic recognition - the Germanic state of Saxe-Coburg Gotha. It also obtained an implicit recognition from the Vatican, which repeatedly addressed the CSA as a government in its own right.

The Germanic state of what?

The Vatican?

I would say that for the first three years, neither the U.S. nor the Confederacy were recognized nations.

[lentulusgracchus]

I would say that for the first three years, neither the U.S. nor the Confederacy were recognized nations.

That is a fair statement, but why then lay it punishingly against the account of the Confederacy that this was so, when the infant United States had less legal standing to claim nationhood and indepandence?

[Non-Sequitur]

I would say that for the first three years, neither the U.S. nor the Confederacy were recognized nations.

More like 17 months for the U.S. The Declaration of Independence was issued in July 1776 and the French agreed to recognize the U.S. in December 1777. For the confederacy, well, they're still waiting for someone, anyone to grant them diplomatic recognition.

[GOPcapitalist]

The Germanic state of what?

Saxe-Coburg Gotha - a Germanic country in existence from 1826-1918 when it united with the other Germanic states to form Weimar Germany. It's best known for Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg Gotha, who came from its royal house and married Victoria.

The Vatican?

Yeah, that place in Rome where the pope lives. Ever heard of it?

I would say that for the first three years, neither the U.S. nor the Confederacy were recognized nations.

And you would be incorrect. As previously noted, the United States got its first foreign recognition on St. Eustasius in late 1776 and the CSA got it from Saxe-Coburg Gotha - both well within 3 years of their creation.