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To: fortheDeclaration; lentulusgracchus; capitan_refugio
The offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance;

And here is an interesting point that is no doubt at the heart of our disagreement, don't you think? Davis purported to, or rather acquiesced to the state of Mississippi, in casting off allegiance to the federal government of the United States.

Can he do such a thing? The argument from the 'Davis was a traitor' crowd trends toward an inability on the part of Davis (in the particular) and the people of Mississippi (in the general) to cast off ties to the government. Whether or not it's been recognized, we've been arguing about whether or not Americans were free men, or subjects of the state - bound by the promise of their father's generation to adhere to Union.

1,265 posted on 11/25/2004 8:06:09 PM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Whether or not it's been recognized, we've been arguing about whether or not Americans were free men, or subjects of the state - bound by the promise of their father's generation to adhere to Union.

Very good point. I vote for "free".

How about you Industrial Corporofascist Empire trolls?

1,285 posted on 11/26/2004 1:45:16 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Gianni; capitan_refugio
Davis was a man who served in the U.S. Senate.

To return to his home state and then lead that same State and other States against the U.S. government that he had served under is nothing less then treason.

Now, it may be a just treason, as that of the Colonies, but treason is still treason.

Patrick did not mince words when he stated that Caeser had his Brutus, Charles had his Cromwell, and King George and crys of treason rang out in the assembly.

Stop trying to redefine words to mean what you want them to mean, the way the Southern Cabel wants to redefine reality.

1,302 posted on 11/26/2004 3:47:49 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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