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To: rustbucket
Frankly I know little about the Southern leadership role in the murder of Lincoln.

However, Jefferson Davis was a traitor by any definition of the word.

He just was not a convicted traitor.

1,236 posted on 11/25/2004 9:09:40 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
Jefferson Davis was a traitor by any definition of the word.

He just was not a convicted traitor.

Neither was George Washington.

1,237 posted on 11/25/2004 9:54:42 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: fortheDeclaration
However, Jefferson Davis was a traitor by any definition of the word.

You misunderstand the crime of treason, which is to say being a traitor. A traitor is, by very definition, a person who subverts the cause of his country while simultaneously professing to be its friend and operating within its structure.

It does NOT apply to persons who have openly shed their affiliation with a country and, where the two subsequently meet, have declared their opposition and hostility to it. Such a person may be an enemy and a belligerant, but he is not a traitor as he no longer professes friendship or affiliation within the country he opposes.

It is for this reason that Benedict Arnold and John Kerry were traitors - they both conducted their subversive acts while professing friendship to the target of those acts - but George Washington and Jefferson Davis were not.

1,239 posted on 11/25/2004 10:24:11 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Read the definition of treason in the Constitution: Article III, Section 3.

Davis had to be a citizen of the United States in order to commit treason. He publicly gave up his citizenship in the United States and became an official of another country. The uses of war prevail here, not your mewling bloodthirstiness.

For some people, moonwalking and end-zone dances just aren't enough, are they?

1,254 posted on 11/25/2004 4:33:44 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: fortheDeclaration; rustbucket; nolu chan; 4ConservativeJustices; capitan_refugio; Heyworth; ...
Frankly I know little about the Southern leadership role in the murder of Lincoln. However, Jefferson Davis was a traitor by any definition of the word.

I nominate you to be the first chairman and general secretary of the Wlat Brigade, hereinafter to be known as the Sanford Conover Memorial Trooth Squad. Your motto will be: "Everything for Lincoln! Death to Traitors!"

You will be permitted, by the rules of the Trooth Squad/Wlat Brigade, to lie, fabricate, alter, forge, misquote, distort, misattribute and decontextualize any sort of material or matter ("matter" loosely construed) in the pursuit of the vindication of Abraham Lincoln's messiahood, for the embellishment of his name and record, and the vilification, criminalization, and execution of his enemies, detractors, and unbelievers.

Is there another nomination for chairman and general secretary?

Happy necktie parties, from all of us unbelievers here on FreeRepublic.

1,258 posted on 11/25/2004 5:07:02 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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