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To: fortheDeclaration
I can see that you have alot to offer.

I've been down this road with El Capitan several times now. Lie, get caught, refuse to acknowledge, repeat.

This time, it appears he has a friend who thinks that Congress supported the illegal suspension a la Farber. When the congressional record is posted demonstrating otherwise, it's labeled "spam." It's the kind of thing I'd expect from children or imbeciles, not self-declared conservatives.

1,219 posted on 11/25/2004 5:06:53 AM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni; fortheDeclaration
"I've been down this road with El Capitan several times now. Lie, get caught, refuse to acknowledge, repeat."

ftD - this is typical confederate cabal bluster. You will find that they tend to classify any poster who disagrees with their pet theories becomes a "liar," a "marxist," or whatever the insult-of-the-day might be. It is classic "Big Lie" propaganda technique, and an admission that they don't have the ability to participate in rational discussion. It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between the cabal and assorted brown-shirted thugs.

1,289 posted on 11/26/2004 2:11:03 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Gianni; capitan_refugio
No, I have no problem with getting information, but just sending a long cut/paste article is not a discussion of anything.

Now, the fact is that Congress did support the Presidents actions at least implicity by not attempting to impeach him for what he did.

And in 1863 protecting him from any legal actions.

While Habeas Corpus was used sparingly, I am sure there were abuses of it by both the Union and Confederates.

But Lincoln can not in any stretch of the imigination be considered a tyrant for his use of it during a crises of the magnitude of the Civil War.

Jefferson Davis took some heat for his use of it as well.

1,298 posted on 11/26/2004 3:16:31 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Gianni; capitan_refugio
This time, it appears he has a friend who thinks that Congress supported the illegal suspension a la Farber When the congressional record is posted demonstrating otherwise, it's labeled "spam." It's the kind of thing I'd expect from children or imbeciles, not self-declared conservatives

As for the congressional record goes, that there were Nothern Democrats opposed to Lincoln no more unusual then the opposition and criticism that Davis got for some of his actions.

As for being conservatives, I would expect Conservatives to love this country, love the principles that it was founded on.

I have not seen any of that from any Southern defender.

Your criticisms of Lincoln range from the petty to the paranoid.

Were mistakes made by Lincoln, no doubt.

But wars, espically civil wars, are very messy to say the least.

This attempt to make Lincoln the arch villian in U.S. history is just revisionism run amok.

1,322 posted on 11/26/2004 4:42:28 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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