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To: nolu chan; capitan_refugio
[ftD] "The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens of the several states, and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.(Art.4,Sec.1)" [ftD] My, what a noble document! "No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due." Art. 4, Sec. 2, Cl. 3.

And why was that clause put into the Constitution in the first place?

At whose insistence?

Why it was the Souths!

And do not forget the 3/4 rule also, where the South demanded that their property was also counted for purposes of representation.

Note also we never used the word slave, like the Confederates did!

We hoped to eventually end slavery, a goal that the South found repulsive.

Moreover, the Southern Constitution also mentioned the race that was to be enslaved (negro).

[nc] My, what a noble document!

Must have been you guys copied it with a few changes to justify your slavery. [nc] Slavery was wrong in both documents.

1,037 posted on 11/24/2004 7:40:53 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
And why was that clause put into the Constitution in the first place? At whose insistence? Why it was the Souths!

Get the log out of your eye. Several Yankee states wanted the slave trade to continue and voted to extend the deadline to 1808, viz: Massachusetts, New Hampshire & Connecticutt.

1,039 posted on 11/24/2004 8:03:52 AM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: fortheDeclaration
And why was that clause put into the Constitution in the first place?

Who AGREED to that clause? Why EVERY state did!!

Note also we never used the word slave, like the Confederates did!

That made the slaves feel so much better.

We hoped to eventually end slavery, a goal that the South found repulsive.

And so in 1816, Henry Clay and other leading colonizationist, met in a Washington, D.C. tavern, and agreed to form the American Colonization Society. During that same year, the ACS elected Associate Justice Bushrod Washington as its President; 13 vice presidents were elected including: Speaker of the House Henry Clay, General Andrew Jackson, and Secretary of the Treasury William Crawford. Francis Scott Key was one of the twelve men elected to manage the day-to-day affairs of the Society; and Elias Caldwell was elected Secretary.

According to the ACS constitution, the goal of the colonizationist movement was to assist African-Americans who wanted to voluntarily emigrate to their ancestral home in Africa. However, once African-American leaders heard that slave holders were planning a colony for them in Africa, they met at a meeting in Philadelphia and issued a statement opposing the scheme. Despite that opposition, the ACS went ahead with its plan. To assure the success of this scheme, the ACS and some Southern slave holders formulated an agreement, which required that slave masters would turn over all manumitted African-Americans to the ACS, so that they would be deported to the colony in Africa. Any manumitted slave who refused to emigrate was to be resold into slavery.

Moreover, the Southern Constitution also mentioned the race that was to be enslaved (negro).

Whereas, the U.S. Constitution kept the nature of the enslaved race a secret. Not even the Blacks knew they were enslaved.

1,089 posted on 11/24/2004 9:23:25 AM PST by nolu chan
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