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To: asgardshill
"He is not beyond criticism."

"He is now."

Not on this planet....

Reeves was an abortion advocate.

125 posted on 10/11/2004 10:03:31 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter; asgardshill
Reeves was an abortion advocate.

I wish assgard had as much compassion for the murdered unborn.

126 posted on 10/11/2004 10:07:25 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: F16Fighter
Not on this planet.... Reeves was an abortion advocate.

Well then, I guess that's between G*d and Mr. Reeve, isn't it?

133 posted on 10/11/2004 10:15:46 AM PDT by asgardshill (Got a lump of coal? Tell Mary Mapes to 'shove it' - in 2 weeks you'll have a diamond.)
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To: F16Fighter; Dr. Eckleburg; BibChr; xzins
RESEARCH CLONING
A Disability Perspective

A Statement by Joni Eareckson Tada and the Christian Council on
Persons with Disabilities

My heart goes out to newly injured people who have suffered spinal cord damage. No one understands better their desire for a cure, than I. Thirty five years ago when I broke my neck and became a quadriplegic, I was desperate for anything - "please, doctors, researchers, do anything" - that would repair my spinal cord and give me back use of my legs and hands. Acute disability does that: it screams for reprieve, demanding that a cure be gained at any cost.

Thirty five years later, my perspective has changed. Time makes one look at the broader implications - not how embryonic stem cell research would impact the individual, but society as a whole. Yes, my husband and I still encourage spinal cord injury research and cure, but not to the degree that the benefits of a possible cure outweigh the serious and permanent consequences.

For me, and tens of thousands of people with disabilities, the security of human dignity and respect for human life is paramount to securing a cure. The rights of people with disabilities - especially those disadvantaged and weak - are safeguarded in a society that honors life and treats humanity with respect. However, the weak and infirmed are exposed in a society that thinks nothing of creating a class of human lives for the explicit purpose of exploitation. This is the Pandora's box research cloning would open. Ironically, the disabled would be the first to be threatened in a world where eugenics and the bio-tech industry set the moral agenda. It's an impersonal world that uses the guise of "cure" while devaluing the very human life it purports to help.

Historically, people with disabilities have never fared well in utilitarian societies where right versus wrong doesn't count, but whether or not "it will work." One prominent pro-cloning advocate, in his testimony before the Senate, said, "The duty of government is to do the greatest good for the greatest number" - yet it was this ideology which paved the way for the extermination of hundreds of thousands of people with disabilities in World War II. Rather, the duty of government is to safeguard the rights of the weak and marginalized; in so doing, the rights of all are upheld. This strikes at the heart of the cloning debate. If experimental cloning were legalized by the passage of the Feinstein or Harkin bills, for the first time in history it would become a crime not to kill an entire class of human beings. I can?t think of anything that would more damage the character of our helping society.

As a person with a disability, that's not the kind of world I want. Research should not benefit me at the expense of other human life. I do not want a society that establishes in law a class of embryos that it is a crime not to destroy. It makes no sense for valuable resources dedicated to safe and more promising adult stem cell research to be diverted for cloning experimentation - there is scientific data showing that stem cells can be obtained from the blood of the umbilical cord, from neuro-tissue, bone marrow and skin cells.

I join countless Americans with disabilities in deploring the "harvesting" of human life; I find it shameful that some of my associates with disabilities are using their physical impairment as a plea to promote research cloning, and I am offended that words like "helpless victim" and "being trapped in a useless body" are used to sway the sympathies of legislators. Rather, let us influence our society with reasoned judgment, strength of character, and a commitment to improve our culture, not diminish it.

148 posted on 10/11/2004 10:55:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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