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To: masher

So when Christ said, "Get thee behind me, Satan" he was talking to himself. Oh, now you're going to tell me the translations were screwed up.

2 Thes 2:9
"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie"

Rev 12:7-9
"And war occurred in Heaven, Michael and his angels making war against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels made war, but they did not have strength, nor was a place still found for them in Heaven. And the great dragon was cast out-
the old serpent being called the Devil and Satan, he deceiving the whole habitable world-was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast with him."

Satan, Lucifer, the devil are the same entity. Although, there are some who believe they are different beings.
The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist.

And I didn't say Muslims were evil. I said we are dealing with evil. Humans are not inherently evil, they become evil through the power of Satan. Hitler wasn't Muslim, but he was evil. Torquemada wasn't Muslim but he was evil.
Killing in the name of religion is evil.
Killing because of religion is evil.
Killing is Satan's tool, not God's.

Perhaps you'd like me to list the names of some of the rebel angels who violated God's rule about consorting with the humans they were supposed to be watching over?
You probably don't believe that story either. I'm sure you'd be hard to convince that God destroyed their home and banished them all to Earth,
"Enoch, thou scribe of justice, go, announce to the watchers of heaven, who have left the high heaven and the holy , eternal place, and have contaminated themselves with women... your (the fallen) petition will not be granted in all the days of the world [...]
from now on ye will not ascend into heaven to all eternity, and upon earth, it has been decreed, they shall bind you for all the days of the world [...] bind them under the hills of the earth...till the day of their judgment and of their end"

Until that day in the wilderness, when Satan tried to tempt Christ he had been allowed to remain on Earth in his physical form. At that moment, Satan was bound in Heaven "behind God's Throne", but his spirit was free to roam and tempt and make mischief.
My point is, God is always about forgiveness, no matter how badly you screw up. You will still have to be judged, but renouncing satan and returning to God, will get you a better shot at salvation.
God only wants to punish Satan and his followers. He's set him up and we are the bait, and this time, this age, is the last one.


57 posted on 10/09/2004 7:16:38 AM PDT by concretebob (Partnership for an Idiot-Free America)
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