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To: AskStPhilomena

Conversion is not magic. Do you think saying a prayer automatically results in conversion, overnight?


16 posted on 09/21/2004 6:36:08 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur; AskStPhilomena
Conversion is not magic.

The Pope is not even allowed to set foot on Russian soil, even though he's given them everything, including the kitchen sink.

You're dreaming.

17 posted on 09/21/2004 6:50:12 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: sinkspur

Seemed to work that way for the Aztecs.

I'm also unclear of your term "overnight". It is more like "over 7,300 nights". The "consecration" was in 1984. To say that this conversion is moving at a snail's pace would be an overstatement.

You also seem to be implying that a conversion has not yet happened when you say we shouldn't expect one that quickly. This would not be in agreement with your claim that Lucy has declared the consecration valid (where she received that authority I don't know). In that same whole ordeal, it was claimed that Lucy said the conversion of Russia has already happened, that Our Lady wasn't speaking of a conversion to Catholicism, but that now the people can choose whether to be Christian or not. I don't expect a clarification on when exactly their free will was revoked any time soon.


18 posted on 09/21/2004 6:54:51 PM PDT by bonaventura
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To: sinkspur; Land of the Irish

The myth of a converted Russia exposed...
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/b007ht.htm


20 posted on 09/21/2004 7:35:38 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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