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pascendi:  But then I wouldn't look to anyone other than the Church to determine what is of the Church, and what is not.

"On the contrary, you're seeing a fracture that may result in another reunion of a part of the SSPX with Rome."

pascendi:  They're not out of communion.

Hmm.  Two statements within less than an hour of one another, and seemingly quite contradictory.  Identify the authority please:

• who determines what is of the Church and what is not?
• who's determined that SSPX is in communion with Rome?  
  tip:  valid Sacraments from SSPX.... count 'em.

FReegards.

[pascendi]

Referring back to Ecclesia Dei, anyone with a bit of a theological background can readily see that instead of being the formal excommunication that everyone ignorantly claims that it was, that the excommunication of the SSPX bishops was actually an assumption of latae sententiae excommunication. It was not an formal excommunication. The document says so itself.

It cited rejection of the papacy as the priniciple basis of the latae sententiae excommunication. But the bishops did not reject the papacy, and openly stated so. Therefore, the supposed basis for the excommunication did not exist.

Simply look at history and you will find Saints who have been "excommunicated" unjustly. Joan of Arc, Saint Athenasius to name two.