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To: Revelation 911; connectthedots; HarleyD; xzins; ShadowAce
So...... Christs blood washed only some sins?

I hope you don't think I was arguing for limited atonement. I was pointing out that for Calvinism it is a necessary component even though it is obviously unbilical. I should have said "Limited Atonement -- No way Jose". My argument is that the Unconditional Election and irresistible grace elements are tied together with this unbiblical teaching. But as CTD pointed out, if Limited Atonement is not true, then all of the other petals fall off the tulip. In that sense it is the lynchpin that holds all the other tulip leaves on the stem.

378 posted on 09/05/2004 7:04:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
I hope you don't think I was arguing for limited atonement. I was pointing out that for Calvinism it is a necessary component even though it is obviously unbilical. I should have said "Limited Atonement -- No way Jose". My argument is that the Unconditional Election and irresistible grace elements are tied together with this unbiblical teaching. But as CTD pointed out, if Limited Atonement is not true, then all of the other petals fall off the tulip. In that sense it is the lynchpin that holds all the other tulip leaves on the stem.

But the principles and typologies of the limited atonement are all through out the OT.

As an example

God made a covenant with the twelve tribes of Israel (Gods elect nation) at the foot of Mount Sinai. Animal sacrifices were offered,as God had prescribed Then "Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you.

Hebrews 5 through 10 is a New Testament commentary on Leviticus, emphasizing the priesthood of Christ and his atoning death. there is nothing there to indicate the sacrifice of the High Priest was an unlimited atonment .

The sacrificial system of Leviticus foreshadows tha sacrifice of Calvery

"On the Day of Atonement the priest made a special sacrifice. At this annual event, the High Priest would make a sacrifice for the nation of Israel as a whole. He would take two goat kids, one of which would become a burnt offering.

The second kid was a sin offering,( "scapegoat." )The High Priest would place his hands on the goat's head and confess over it the sins of the nation of Israel . Israel's sin was symbolically transferred to the goat. Then the goat was released in the wilderness, to die in the wild .

Both these goats were types of Christ. The first died for Israel's sins. The second, the scapegoat, symbolized the carrying away of their sin, where it would be lost and forgotten. Like the first, Christ died for our sins and like the second He carried away our sins "as far as the east is from the west" , But when that High Priest placed his hands on those goats he knew who's sin he was transfering. It was specific to the nation of Israel

All of this was peculiar to the agreement between God and Israel. It was not a general atonment by the Lamb. It was a specific atonment for a limited preselected people.

This type of Christ demonstrated a limited atonement-

388 posted on 09/05/2004 3:10:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Left standing)
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To: P-Marlowe

no no - I was only injecting some sarcasm


399 posted on 09/06/2004 3:47:07 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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