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To: capitan_refugio
By quoting Hitler, you invoke his racism and inhumanity as your moral authority. And it is not being done in some scholarly sense; it is being done to smear me and others.

Sentence 1: Smear Gianni and others with Hitler.
Sentence 2: Turn around and claim it was them.

You've done it repeatedly. It is hypocritical. Your other tactic is claiming that others are engaging in ad hominem in the same post where you are the one so engaged.

Why don't you explain yourself?

I just did.

A couple of you claim some level of Christian belief. Hitler, too, claimed he was acting in behalf of the will of God and according to Biblical sanctions. In Mein Kampf he quotes from the Bible hundreds of times. By the exact same analogy used by GOPcapitalist, would it be fair for me to say that because you are Christian who believes the Bible, you are also an adherent to Hitler?

False analogy. It was capitan refugio who said that Lincoln was justified in using invented and unconstitutional emergency powers. When it was pointed out that others made the same claim to grab their power and overthrow the civil authority, rather than explain what protections were in place to prevent any such end in the case of Lincoln, you started trying to paint us as Nazis.

I am willing to put the question to Jim and see what he thinks.

Ping him if you wish, I will not since I suppose he is a rather busy man.

465 posted on 08/31/2004 4:07:05 PM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
"Sentence 1: Smear Gianni and others with Hitler.
Sentence 2: Turn around and claim it was them."

I'm not the one quoting Hitler. I'm not the one used false analogies to smear people.

If a poster uses a Hitler quotation by way of comparison, that person invokes Hitler as authority. That person gives creedance to Hitler's evil. That person is not condeming Hitler's writing, but utilizing the ideas and giving them substance.

"It was capitan refugio who said that Lincoln was justified in using invented and unconstitutional emergency powers."

I said nothing of the sort. Lincoln's use of emergency powers was ratified by the Congress in 1861 and 1863, and upheld by the Supreme Court in 1863. I am not a Missourian, but show me anyway.

"... you started trying to paint us as Nazis."

Review the thread and you'll see (1) I did not bring Nazi political philosophy into the discussion, and (2) I objected when it was brought up. My objections were an invitation for the children to post more of that satanic crap. You're still doing it too.

489 posted on 09/01/2004 2:44:28 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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