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To: capitan_refugio
While we're at it, here are a couple more principles on which this nation was founded:

He has refuted his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Lincoln refuted his assent to the laws by shunning at least five court rulings against him and using the military to intimidate and house arrest judges.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

Lincoln had at least two federal congressmen arrested, overthrew the Missouri legislature by force, and detained several members of the Maryland legislature to prevent it from meeting over secession.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

Lincoln unconstitutionally suspended habeas corpus and refused his assent to the Judicial Act of 1789, which established the judiciary power of habeas corpus.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. Lincoln employed federal soldiers to place a judge under house arrest and plotted to arrest the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He also attempted to use his new income tax to tinker with the salaries of federal judges he did not like, Taney among them, in violation of the Constitution's provision that judges will "receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

See Sherman's march through Georgia.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

Lincoln raised a massive standing army to invade Virginia a month before it even seceded, all while Congress was out of session.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

Again, Lincoln shunned at least five major federal court rulings against him and used his military agents to detain, harass, and house arrest the civil power of the judiciary.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation

Lincoln gave his sanction to a rump legislature in Wheeling, West Virginia, which was purporting itself to conduct the government of the entire state of Virginia. He also overthrew the state constitution of Missouri and installed his own legislature there and oversaw the reorganization of the state constitution of Maryland with a highly suspect referendum.

The list goes on and on from there. It is without doubt that Lincoln committed many if not most of the same offenses that led the colonists to rebel against King George.

314 posted on 08/29/2004 6:27:58 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: GOPcapitalist
"Lincoln shunned at least five major federal court rulings against him"

What is a "major" federal court ruling? What is a minor federal court ruling? Are there other degrees of importance, such as "intermediate," "moderate," or "really important." How about "hugh" or "series"? And how do you come to your conclusion on "major" or some other ranking?

"Lincoln had at least two federal congressmen arrested"

Just for the record, they were ...? "... overthrew the Missouri legislature by force"

The "Long Convention" of Missouri citizens tossed the rascals out, because the rump legislature were traitors, and abdicated their positions.

"He also attempted to use his new income tax to tinker with the salaries of federal judges he did not like, Taney among them, in violation of the Constitution's provision that judges will "receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."

You are certainly reaching on this one! If an income tax lowers your take home pay, it is not to say that it diminished your compensation. Your gross pay remained the same. Taney had a prepared opinion on that issue too, in the event a case ever came his way!

"See Sherman's march through Georgia."

Sherman's march through the deep south was a military offensive designed to break the back of the confederate war-making capability and destroy the will of the people of the CSA to resist superior moral and military force. In as much as the rebels did not claim to be Lincoln's "people," your analogy fails.

"Lincoln raised a massive standing army to invade Virginia a month before it even seceded"

I would agree that if the secessionists and the Union came to blows, the federal armies would have invaded through Virginia. You need to provide a little bit more proof than your gratuitous accusation.

"Lincoln gave his sanction to a rump legislature in Wheeling, West Virginia, which was purporting itself to conduct the government of the entire state of Virginia."

The good people of western Virginia wanted nothing to do with their traitorous eastern brethren. Lincoln was always happy to accommodate the loyal. He would have, no doubt, helped the people of the mountains in eastern Tennessee (home of the loyal Senator Andrew Johnson) and western North Carolina, if he could have gotten armies into those places to enforce constitutional law.

The great irony about the secessionist gripes concerning the creation of West Virgina is that they hypocritically would have denied those people the "right to unilateral secession" they divined for themselves. As it was, the people of "Kanawha" declared the secessionist legislature in violation of Constitution and no longer representative, and themselves passed an "ordinance of dismemberment."

"He also overthrew the state constitution of Missouri and installed his own legislature there"

Inaccurate and baseless. The treasonable Governor and his fellow travelers skedaddled in the face of moral authority. The vast majority of people of Missouri solved this problem on their own - democratically - and revised their own state constitution.

"The list goes on and on from there. It is without doubt that Lincoln committed many if not most of the same offenses that led the colonists to rebel against King George."

This tripe of yours would not rate a passing grade as a high school history essay.

316 posted on 08/29/2004 11:34:51 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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