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To: GOPcapitalist
"Then why did they obtain a separate motion on July 19th to change the title from "A Declaration by the Representatives of the United States of America in General Congress assembled" to "The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America"? "

Sounds better, don't you think?

"Which, as I noted, means that it had not been a unanimous declaration of all 13 colonies prior to then."

Wrong. You said that the July resolution was "was not unanimously agreed to." I know now what you meant, but it is not what you said.

"That would make it the declaration agreed to by 12 colonies but not the final 13th colony, which still waited for direction."

Given that it was several weeks before the engrossed copy of the Declaration was ordered and ready for signatures, your point is historically trivial. The July 2 resolution was unanimous. The July 4 Dunlap broadsides were widely distributed. New York chimed in by the 15th of July. The engrossed copy was ordered on the 19th.

2,886 posted on 10/11/2004 12:25:46 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
Sounds better, don't you think?

Indeed it does, which is why they changed it as soon as they could honestly say it.

Wrong. You said that the July resolution was "was not unanimously agreed to."

Did they identify it as a unanimously agreed resolution at any time prior to New York's decision? If they did, show it.

Given that it was several weeks before the engrossed copy of the Declaration was ordered and ready for signatures, your point is historically trivial.

The only reason you call it trivial is the fact that you don't like its implications. It is hardly a trivial matter though considering that the July 4th Dunlap Broadside, and not the more famous formal presentation copy from a month later, is the one they sent to King George (two copies of it still exist in the holdings of the British government). Nor is the famous presentaiton copy the one that was officially entered into the record. The official one was signed by John Hancock and the secretary on the 4th and carried over to Dunlap's print show that evening for distribution. It was replaced in the record with a Dunlap copy that then became the engrossed one and resides to this day in the national archives.

2,889 posted on 10/11/2004 12:48:15 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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