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To: capitan_refugio
The one thing that is perfectly clear is that neither North Carolina nor Rhode Island had ratified the Constitution when the government under the AoC was dissolved and a new government formed under a Constitution which only included 11 states.

The union under the AoC and the union under the Constitution were two different unions.

2,866 posted on 10/11/2004 9:33:41 AM PDT by nolu chan (What's the frequency?)
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To: nolu chan; capitan_refugio
It is also perfectly clear that on July 4, 1776 when the Declaration of Independence was adopted, it was not unanimously agreed to yet and lacked any concurrence from the New York delegation, which was still awaiting instructions.

The first broadside copies of the declaration were printed that evening and did not have the word "unanimous" across the top like the more famous copy. It only became unanimous several days later when New York gave its support. Thus for a period of about a week or so, New York had not consented to independence yet making any "union" that existed at the time split on the issue of breaking away from Britain.

2,878 posted on 10/11/2004 10:45:45 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: nolu chan
"The union under the AoC and the union under the Constitution were two different unions."

Only in the cockeyed confederate point of view. The Union remained. The government changed.

2,887 posted on 10/11/2004 12:31:56 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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