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KEYES PLANNING TO RUN! (Accepts GOP IL Senate Bid)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 8/05/4 | Scott Fornek

Posted on 08/05/2004 7:50:40 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: Luis Gonzalez
It's going to be done the very same way that we did it here with Hillary.

Of course it will. You all are showing the model.

And it will be just as effective at persuading anyone as your arguments are here...ie not effective at all.

The charge just doesn't stick at the senatorial or presidential level.

The race will be about the relative stature, call it senatorial presence, of the two candidates.

That is a comparison that will serve Alan well.

Obama has a name ID that is just horrible. And he is a full decade younger than Keyes.

Age and seasoning are critical components of success in Senate races at both the national and the state level.

That's a simple fact.

161 posted on 08/05/2004 10:57:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards.)
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To: tame
He has NO figures,no numbers whatsoever.If hes had them,he;d post them.

Oh yeah,you live in CALIFORNIA and are getting behind Keyes. LOL

Nobody here is saying that they won't vote for him,they're stating hard,cold facts of the race.That in no way means that they support Obama.But you refuse to admit that.Instead,you post your childish insults.How does THAT help?

162 posted on 08/05/2004 10:58:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Indeed, Ryan was trailing Obama.

But the people in this state have a bad taste for Ryan's - starting with the last governor of that name. Moral turpitude of an elected Republican official will keep social conservatives home for years. And when the GOP keeps running people of the same name and people with other moral "issues" it brings all the past forward and it snowballs.

Keyes is clean, is not a "Ryan" and is truly a social conservative. The people who elected Fitzgerald can still be inspired to vote - but it'll take a lot of work.

163 posted on 08/05/2004 10:58:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: EternalVigilance

In less than 100 days.


164 posted on 08/05/2004 10:58:56 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: nopardons
you post your childish insults

I would say at this point you're the one with the insults. See above: "childish"

Rah, Rah.

165 posted on 08/05/2004 11:00:09 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: YngConservative

Who the hell are you to tell me what I am or what I am not?

Three whole days in FR and you KNOW me?


166 posted on 08/05/2004 11:00:34 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: tame
No,if you were my child,you'd have better manners and be far more intelligent. But YOU are a "kid"!

You still don't understand much of anything at all,which you posts keep proving.

If you want to debate this,use facts,or at least opinions based on facts.

167 posted on 08/05/2004 11:01:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: LandOfLincolnGOP

What do you think of him? Paul Harvey said he was wonderful.


168 posted on 08/05/2004 11:01:49 PM PDT by tuckrdout (I am here because abortion use to be illegal.)
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To: nopardons
you live in CALIFORNIA and are getting behind Keyes. LOL

Please tell me you don't think the above sentence is witty.

Hint: Campaign finance laws allow me to "get behind" Keyes even though I'm from California. You seriously didn't know that???

169 posted on 08/05/2004 11:02:57 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: TheCrusader

I certainly believe Keyes was the best debater in that campaign. However, if he ever has a point of disagreement with Cheney - that's a debate I'd like to see. LOL!


170 posted on 08/05/2004 11:03:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

The problem is that the same people in here rah-rahing about Keyes's certain victory, will turn around and place the blame for the loss on the GOP.

If they can't see just what an impossible task Keyes has ahead of him now, they will never accept the fact that the defeat came about for any reason other than the National GOP "turned" on Keyes.

You watch.


171 posted on 08/05/2004 11:04:04 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: nopardons
No,if you were my child,you'd have better manners and be far more intelligent. But YOU are a "kid"!

Insults???

Question: Are you against Keyes because he's...black?

172 posted on 08/05/2004 11:04:14 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Who the hell are you to tell me what I am or what I am not?
Three whole days in FR and you KNOW me?

Attaboy Luis!!! Show him what you're REALLY like!!!

173 posted on 08/05/2004 11:04:40 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: tuckrdout
I LOVE Keyes, but he still owes money from his other campaigns, doesn't he?

Nope.

And his words about Hillary are going to come back and bite him on the butt!

He handled the comments he made in the past in a way that all reasonable people should admire. He confronted them directly, and openly admitted the struggle they have caused him to have in his own heart and mind.

Refreshing candor, IMO.

I laugh at the spectacle of the very same folks who have excoriated this man in the past for his supposed lack of what they call 'pragmatism'. When he demonstrates some, and openly admits the conflicts that that creates, they take that opportunity to scourge him some more.

174 posted on 08/05/2004 11:05:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Obama speech WAS extremely Clintonesque and gave me the willies.

And,last fall,there were so many Obama signs all over Chicago and many suburbs,that that too is disturbing.Those signs have only proliferated,now.They're worse than a pair of breeding rabbits.

175 posted on 08/05/2004 11:05:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I'm not the problem here, talk to the guy from California calling the guy from Illinois names for opining on the way the GOP is doing things in Illinois."

It seems to me that plenty of FReepers outside of California were telling that state how to run it's local politics. Why should Illinois be off limits?

176 posted on 08/05/2004 11:06:28 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: egarvue

That figures;I am not surprised.


177 posted on 08/05/2004 11:06:35 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: cyborg

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether he'll win or not.


178 posted on 08/05/2004 11:07:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Willie Green
Aren't there any Karl Marx quotes apropos to this situation that you can post Willie?
179 posted on 08/05/2004 11:07:57 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I will happily eat crow after a Keyes victory.

(snicker)......there is something downright incestuous about one fowl feasting on another!

How ya been?

180 posted on 08/05/2004 11:08:33 PM PDT by justshe (Monthly donors to FR make the FR world go round...and round...and round.....!)
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