No. :-)
They are forcing "findings" to a faith based fixed world view as apposed to modifying a model based on the discovery of new evidence.
That's what I said, isn't it?
They are forcing "findings" to a faith based fixed world view as apposed to modifying a model based on the discovery of new evidence.
I would like to re-characterize your assertion!
1. Top on the list for Bible based groups is to introduce people to the Creator of the universe. (by commission)
2. The evidence so clearly demonstrates a non-naturalistic origin to life and our universe, that to secularize the discussion would be foolish.
3. Scientists don't know the model, so they are an unreliable source for truth regarding shaping peoples ideas about reality.
4. We do not resent scientists making discoveries (as we so frequently are characterized), we resent the scientists who wrongfully formulate ideas that lead ignorant individuals to believe the facts are all on the table, when, in fact, for science the table the facts are placed on is questionable.
5. We honor the honest pursuit of discovery, but wish to emphasize that truth is a creation of Jesus, by definition.
The Holy Bible's claims about Jesus are consistent! Just so you don't believe these were my ideas. We believe the following to be the truth, and what science does, are the discoveries of the truth that Jesus created.
John 1:1-4
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. (emphasis added)
Jesus created the universe, therefore He is a better source of truth than His creation.
John 4:23-26
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
Meaning resides in our spirits. Therefore; God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Jesus here asserts His authenticity for being the source of all spiritual truth.
John 3:10-21
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
A spiritually dead person seeks for meaning for their life in the material world. Therefore Bible based groups do not align with the ID movement.
I pray that the Creator of the universe speaks to your soul through His word.