Posted on 07/23/2004 7:55:29 AM PDT by cryptical
I never made that statement.
"Yeah and drug dealing is easy money for losers who don't wanna get a job."
Very few "drug dealers" support themselves by dealing drugs. The vast majority of people who sell pot are pot smokers who buy extra for a quantity discount and sell a little so their pot will be free and probably for a little spare cash. Most all I've ever come across have jobs. There are people making big money somewhere up the delivery chain, but the vast majority of "retail suppliers" out there participating in the black market aren't making a living from their activities. Most of them are only selling a little to their friends, especially in the small towns all over America where they don't have open air drug markets in parks and in the projects where people sell to complete strangers.
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"Are there no fines assessed?"
Fines are rare in the drug mule and delivery cases because usually these guys are going to prison and most don't have any money anyway. Otherwise they'd hire private attorneys. In standard possession cases fines are usually assessed, but these funds if collected are squandered by the counties or cities who impose them. Public defenders in my state are paid by the state, not by counties or cities.
Nonsense. Maybe to you, but that doesn't make it so.
Calling them a "criminal" is also irrelevant.
Nonsense. Using drugs is a crime. Those who do it are criminals by definition. I don't take lectures on crime from criminals.
Are all bad laws to be obeyed?
No. But when the criminal is advocating laws which they themselves have violated it is hypocritical at best.
Where do you draw the line on resistance to improper and corrupt government authority?
I can see you are defending yourself by defending the poster. If you start advocating incarceration for others who have committed the same crimes as you when you haven't served your sentence, you will come in for the same criticism.
If you want to start calling people who violate prohibition criminals, call us all criminals,
Anyone who commits crimes is a criminal. I didn't write the laws. In fact I oppose the WOD.
It's not against the law to not "lift a hand" to stop people from doing legal things. In fact, it's against the law to stop them. Your idea about everyone being criminals and murderers is moronic.
BTW, not that it matters, but I oppose abortion and I "lift a hand" to vote for pro life candidates.
Good information. I have no doubt that the overall impact is a net loss.
To: Labyrinthos That is certainly not my experiendce after self medicating with reefer since the late 1970's. I used to "self-medicate" with reefers but I grew out of that phase. 16 posted on 07/21/2004 8:44:33 AM CDT by cinFLA [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
Please post a link to the post. Anyone can write anything with a keyboard.
I absoutely declare that I never made that statement and that I did not self-medicate in the late 1970's.
We Shall Overcome...
Anyone know where this guy gets his numbers?
According to the FBI's 2000 numbers, Table 4.1, 40.9% of all drug arrests were for marijuana possession and 5.6% for marijuana sales/distribution. That's 46.5% total, not 80%.
Of the 2.1 million prisoners, about 400,000 (20%) are drug offenders, and most of them are scumbag drug dealers or drug traffickers.
Nice try, I see your attempt to mislead. This is what you said in bold. The other statement was made by the other poster.
To: Labyrinthos
That is certainly not my experiendce after self medicating with reefer since the late 1970's. I used to "self-medicate" with reefers but I grew out of that phase.
16 posted on 07/21/2004 8:44:33 AM CDT by cinFLA [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
LOL, nice try. I posted the evidence.
Works pretty good for my dealer. ;)
Pointing out your errors is misleading? Hmmm.
Hippie.
Have you ever used paper made with hemp pulp? It is far superior to the "recycled" junk, and equivalent to (or better than) the wood product. Also, it requires significantly less chemical processing than either raw or recycled wood pulp products. I don't recall the exact amount of pulp per acre, but do remember that it is quite a bit higher than timber, when you take into account that it can be harvested annually.
It makes lousy cloth however (scratchy), and nylon is far superior as a rope (hemp rope rots). I certainly agree with you there. It makes great paper and cardboard though.
What I was trying to say here was that if the drug culture would stop associating it with pot it might be considered as a replacement for wood pulp. The pot-heads are trying to use it as a stepping stone to legalizing marijuana, by saying that pot plants are useful as pulp. Hemp is, but marijuana isn't. As long as people treat hemp like a drug, it will never be used in any kind of significant quantities.
But you admitted your error in #52!
Ah. It's right next to the part that says women have a right to kill their unborn children.
>Hemp and Marijuana are NOT the same plant!
>>Sure they are, just bred for different characteristics.
Right; like humans and apes, horses and zebras, house cats and lions, etc.
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