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To: stand watie

On this "Wanderer" issue that is going on.......

The contention that it was Southern owned and that that fact has some historical significance is trivial. There were hundreds of ships built in New England and New York for the slave trade, all with Northern home ports, and flags, and crews.

The only significance is that she seems to have carried the "last load of slaves" to the South. But she was not the last to be involved in the ongoing slave trade and to have been seized. That honor is held by northern owned ships.

According to one report I have seen she carried several flags, and according to another account, was flying the flag of the New York Yacht Club at the time of interception by a US ship.

Her ownership was also questionable. It seems as if Charles Augustus Lafayette Lamar of Savannah is associated with ownership.

One source says the ship was built for John Johnson who we are told was of Louisiana, and involved in sugar plantations.

After some research, it is found that Johnson was from Islip, New York, and had bought some Southern farms.

After the "Wanderer" cruised south to Charleston and the port of Havana, one William Corrie of Charleston entered the picture.

It was reported that Johnson of Islip sold the ship at about one half its construction cost to Corrie, and possibly Lamar. Some sources said that that made actual ownership suspicious.

There is very little relevance to the story of the "Wanderer", except to the offspring of its slave cargo. There does appear to be enough evidence to support the claim that the construction and outfitting was done by Johnson of Islip, and that he may have had a southern front man for the management of the operation.


692 posted on 07/27/2004 2:33:31 PM PDT by PeaRidge ("Walt got the boot? I didn't know. When/why did it happen?" Ditto 7-22-04)
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To: PeaRidge

Why thank you, Pea. Nothing clears up a discussion quite like a bunch of "According to one report..." and "One source..." statements, especially when flavored with your unique brand of southron bigotry. I don't suppose you would care to name your 'one source' or the origin of that 'one report'?


694 posted on 07/27/2004 4:48:42 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: PeaRidge
"There is very little relevance to the story of the "Wanderer", except to the offspring of its slave cargo. There does appear to be enough evidence to support the claim that the construction and outfitting was done by Johnson of Islip, and that he may have had a southern front man for the management of the operation."

There were actually two wanderer subthreads. The relevance of one was to demonstrate something about the methods of the anti-Southern bigots that troll these threads. IE: that even to a simple, innocuous, relatively unimportant question arising from one of their claims, they refuse to give a straight answer. Indeed, never a straight answer about anything, large or small.

I know it's been done before. This just shows how absolutely consistent they are over time and regardless of subject matter.
851 posted on 08/07/2004 9:31:46 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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