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THE BATTLE OF ATLANTA: Civilians were Sherman's targets
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 07/16/04 | JOHN A. TURES

Posted on 07/18/2004 8:40:59 PM PDT by canalabamian

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To: LincolnLover
And as long as you compare Southerners with ignorant, insane, hate-filled Islamic radicals, then you're quite ignorant...and an a**hole to boot.

Yeah, you're right. At least some Southerners had the decency of lynching their subjects rather than subjecting them to a cruel stoning.

21 posted on 07/18/2004 9:11:42 PM PDT by zarf
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To: crz
At wars end during the few days after Lincoln was killed, it was Grant, Lee, Sherman, and a couple other southern leaders that saved the republic

The republic was lost.

The democracy won.

22 posted on 07/18/2004 9:16:30 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Are you amazed that some people will still argue about what the War of Southern Rebellion was about, and about who started it?


23 posted on 07/18/2004 9:17:10 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Ich kann nicht anders.")
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To: zarf
As long as Sherman was killin Southerners he was OK by me.


24 posted on 07/18/2004 9:19:44 PM PDT by spodefly (I can't handle the pressure to come up with interesting taglines for every post.)
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To: canalabamian
Gen. Lee did not burn Maryland or Pennsylvania when he invaded.

As a matter of fact, General Jubal Early did burn Chambersburg, PA in 1864. He had threatened to burn Frederick, MD also but the local bankers bought him off with a ransom payment. I believe it was over 100 years later that their descendants finally got some kind of reparations from the U.S. government, on the grounds that their heroic sacrifice had saved Washington itself by delaying Early's invasion for a couple of days.

25 posted on 07/18/2004 9:21:05 PM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: zarf

26 posted on 07/18/2004 9:26:31 PM PDT by spodefly (I can't handle the pressure to come up with interesting taglines for every post.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

sherman was a war crimal, period


27 posted on 07/18/2004 9:26:47 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: crz
....that useless and idiotic war.

Where do you get off calling the Civil War "useless and idiotic"?

I find it one the most noble contests in human history.

It was an unavoidable necessity in the history of this nation and for adavancing the cause of human freedom.

You're labeling the war as "useless" is idiotic and ignorant.

28 posted on 07/18/2004 9:30:42 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Shooter 2.5; SouthernFreebird; canalabamian; All
In Victor Davis Hanson's Ripples of Battle, the Battle of Shiloh is described in vivid detail. The effect it had on Sherman, after he narrowly and miraculously escaped being killed in the first few hours of the conflict, was immense. It fueled his determination to obliterate the enemy. This he carried out with extraordinary success. He showed that the best way to win war in the industrial age is the complete destruction of the industrial infrastructure of the enemy, not just forcing its military to surrender.

This is a worthwhile and important strategy, and is taught in almost all major military schools in the world today. After the Civil War, Europe sat up and took notice of the new way of war invented by W.T.Sherman.

The United States achieved total victory in Europe in WWII by wiping out the industrial capacity of Germany, which the victorious allies had failed to do in the Great War.

29 posted on 07/18/2004 9:43:34 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: canalabamian
meanwhile on the Food network....

"This wonderful recipe by Julia Child reminds us of nostalgic winter days.......before the specter of Abu Ghraib.

So, first skin the chicken and gently blanch, then ad a sprig of tarragon........."
30 posted on 07/18/2004 10:51:13 PM PDT by CondiArmy
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To: canalabamian
(cough)Andersonville(cough)
31 posted on 07/18/2004 11:03:53 PM PDT by asgardshill ("I like the yellow ones")
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To: zarf

I'll bump to that!

General Sherman was a national hero!


32 posted on 07/18/2004 11:19:46 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: GOPJ

W.T.Sherman put the question to the South. He ended the pussyfooting, and drove a dagger into the South's soul. He won the civil war. He understood what war is about. We could all learn a lesson from him. Listen, if you don't want the atrocities of war brought to bear upon your heartland, don't make war.


33 posted on 07/19/2004 12:01:34 AM PDT by fhayek (Either we are conservatives, or we are slaves,)
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To: nwrep

That's a great book isn't it?

I've lived most of my life in the South and from time to time have had to listen to nitwits like the guy who posted this topic.

Hanson's book had it exactly right. Sherman was the most innovative general not only of the Civil War but of the entire 19th century. While Lee and Grant were still chasing chasing each other around the countryside and losing huge numbers of soldiers on both sides, Sherman figured out that if he couldn't kill every confederate soldier, he could kill the South's will to fight and keep his men alive at the same time. Hanson's book gave evidence of this when he recounted that Lee's army was losing hundreds of soldiers to desertion every day.Why? To go home and try to protect their property because they had gotten the news that
Sherman was loose in the South and was "making Georgia howl".


34 posted on 07/19/2004 12:56:14 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: zarf

"As long as Sherman was killin Southerners he was OK by me"

Would you like to have a go at this Southerner, girlie man?


35 posted on 07/19/2004 1:05:31 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: canalabamian

The good professor is from Wisconsin one of the most liberal states anywhere...moreover it ain't a dixie ping because this guy hates a Georgia flag...And by the way you guys lost


37 posted on 07/19/2004 2:23:37 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: zarf

As long as he was just killin' Jews, I guess Hitler was alright to you also! You sick a-hole.


38 posted on 07/19/2004 4:03:29 AM PDT by RedCobra
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bump


39 posted on 07/19/2004 4:13:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Neville72
Sherman was loose in the South and was "making Georgia howl".

""It will be a physical impossibility to protect the roads, now that Hood, Forrest, Wheeler, and the whole batch of devils are turned loose without home or habitation. I think that Hood's movements indicate a diversion to the end of the Selma & Talledega road, at Blue Mountain, about 60 miles southwest of Rome, where he will threaten Kingston, Bridgeport, and Decatur,Alabama, I propose that we break up the railroad from Chattanooga forward, and that we strike out with our wagons for Midgeville, Millen, and Savannah. Until we can repopulate Georgia, it is useless for us to occupy it, but the utter destruction of its roads, houses, and people, will cripple their military resources. By attempting to hold the roads, we will lose a thousand men each month, and we will gain no result. I can make this march, and make Georgia howl! We have on hand over 8 thousand head of cattle and three million rations of bread, but no corn. We can find plenty of forage in the interior of the state." -- William T. Sherman, October 1864.

40 posted on 07/19/2004 4:18:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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