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Narses: JP II is right (by definition, office and guidance by the Holy Ghost) and the schism, insofar as it rebels against JP II and the papacy and the Roman Catholic Church as it does, is wrong. There are NO ISSUES for Catholics to deal with in the pews in some sort of ill-conceived "debate" with the schismatics. It is not shameful to speak the Truth to you and to others here. It would be shameful not to speak the Truth. Nor is it an "ad hominem attack" to raise to you and to actual schismatics (which you appear not to be) the Truth of Roman Catholicism and that Catholicism and not Lefebvrist Schism is the Church of Jesus Christ. The schismatic priests illicitly enjoy the office of ordination and the ability to perform Masses. That does not make them a preferred option. Your local circumstances may make EVEN schismatic Masses preferable to the local alternatives but the schism is not thereby scrubbed clean. Priests in mortal sin of whatever kind can say valid Masses. One ought not to show solidarity with their sins but only with their Masses.