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To: frnk

The New Catechism is like his encyclicals--unreadable, full of gobbledegook. On balance, this pope has done more harm than good. In fact, the good has been minimal.


71 posted on 07/12/2004 6:22:30 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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81 posted on 07/12/2004 6:29:19 PM PDT by frnk
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On balance, this pope has done more harm than good. In fact, the good has been minimal.
Sorry, I can't agree with your assessment in its entirety. We must remember that this is the era of the Fatima "or" (as Fatima gave the pope of 1960 and "rither/or" propsition. He chose "or" - and we are now living under the effect of that "or". There is a diabolic disorientation of the mind which is affecting all men, and particulaly the clergy. This Pope - even though he is under the special protection of Mary - is still mortal, and can be misled, swayed into making mistakes. And he certainly has. But not because he is himself evil - but because he is human. This does not excuse him for responsibility for what has happened these 25 years under his watch. Realize also, that now as a feeble old man, his enemies in the Vatican can get away with more, as they have more power, and he is less able to resist them. If he has erred, it has certainly been on the side of love and tolerance - perhaps foolishly. This I would agree with. But he is "the last pope of these Catholic times". And the one to come after him may well be the Antipope of history, according to prophecy. So, before he leaves us - flawed though he is - John Paul is trying to prepare us for the future. I dont agree with all he has done, But I do agree with the charity and love he has shown. Remember, the words of Christ to St. Peter: "when you are old, others will dress you and lead you where you would not go".


210 posted on 07/12/2004 10:52:49 PM PDT by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux!)
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To: ultima ratio; ninenot

Get reading lessons or is dyslexia one of your problems paving your road to schism?


259 posted on 07/13/2004 10:54:42 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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