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To: BlackElk

No, in fact you worship a man, the Pope, to whom you ascribe an absolutism Vatican I has clearly rejected. You exalt instead blind obedience, which is wrong and culpable, and you do this by accepting every papal hiccup as a sign from Heaven not to be criticized nor second-guessed. This is not only unCatholic, it is idolatrous. Every Catholic is obliged in conscience to defend the faith--even if it means resisting a papal command.

As for John XXII, his history is so well-known I see no reason to do a google search. Do one yourself. Try the Catholic Encyclopedia. I'm sure you'll find he mistakenly taught that the souls of the Blessed do not see God until after the final judgment. This scandalized theologians who accused him of heresy. He apologized in his final days and retracted his view before his death. It was a classic example of material heresy on the part of a pope.


395 posted on 07/14/2004 5:43:29 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio

I know Whom I worship. Evidently you don't know Whom I worship. As previously, I worship only the Triune God, just as you do. However, I obey the Vicar of Christ on Earth as you do not. Your duty is to obey and not to judge those above you in the food chain unless and until you admit you have left the Roman Catholic Church or become an ecclesiastical official whose job entails such judgments.


402 posted on 07/14/2004 6:43:46 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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