[GirlShortstop]

At the Novus Ordo Mass, is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made imminent upon the altar?

It is a question of the loss of grace which is so clearly evident in all who adhere to the New Mass.

There are no facts to support this notion.  It is remarkable that a rite seems to give some the idea that they've the right to decree such disgraceful haughtiness and judgement.  I'm grateful Black Elk that you have the stomach for posting the truth in response to this tripe.
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[Maximilian]

There are no facts to support this notion.

There are whole books full of facts. Try the "Index of Leading Catholic Indicators." Try the article that started this thread. Even the seminaries have become virtual Sodom and Gomorrah.

[corpus]

"There are no facts to support this notion. [of a loss of grace]"


If the Mass is invalid, the graces of the sacrifice are not present. For example, one cannot receive graces from a "consecrated" piece of Wonder Bread or a cookie. Form, matter, and intention are required for the graces. It is strictly a matter of fact.