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To: frnk

>>no other Pope brought down the worldwide grip of godless communism.<<

And, neither did this one. Communism fell in on itself, helped along by two very courageous men...Reagan & Gorbachev. Where, in the world would you get such an idiot notion that "Pope Piel" did anything of the sort?


139 posted on 07/12/2004 7:47:50 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: torqemada; frnk

IMHO you shortchange rather gratuitously His Holiness. His role in the destruction of the Warsaw Bloc is very well documented. Poland, Polish clergy in general and His Holiness stood tall.


140 posted on 07/12/2004 7:49:22 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: torqemada

"Communism fell in on itself, helped along by two very courageous men...Reagan & Gorbachev."
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Wow, courageous ...Reagan & Gorbachev?

They risked so much I bet their "courage" will never be matched again in the future history.

Are you courageous, torq?


211 posted on 07/12/2004 11:05:16 PM PDT by frnk
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To: torqemada
And, neither did this one. Communism fell in on itself, helped along by two very courageous men...Reagan & Gorbachev. Where, in the world would you get such an idiot notion that "Pope Piel" did anything of the sort?

LOL

You should do a little research: giving credit to Gorbachev but none to John Paul is just incredible.

216 posted on 07/12/2004 11:40:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Soros: a left-wing billionaire currency speculator who funds many liberal efforts)
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To: torqemada

It is widely known and well documented that JPII, Thatcher and Reagan knocked the evil empire to its knees. That one is beyond reasonable debate.


231 posted on 07/13/2004 12:29:34 AM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that thwarts national defense.)
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To: torqemada; ninenot; ArrogantBustard; sandyeggo
1. You are misspelling the name of the Grand Inquisitor. See my tag line.

2. Gorbachev????????? Courageous????????? He was the Deputy Director of the Soviet KGB serving under Director Yuri Andropov on the day that the Bulgarian KGB at their request succeeded in using Mehmet Ali Agca in the attempted assassination of John Paul II in Vatican Square. Gorbachev is, was and, apparently, always will be Marxist-Leninist trash. He merely was present to acknowledge the collapse of the Soviet Union which is now being patiently rebuilt by Putin.

3. Read George Weigel's book on the collapse of the Soviet Union and his biography of JP II.

4. Also, don't underestimate Maggie Thatcher's contribution to the effort.

285 posted on 07/13/2004 12:21:35 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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