[ultima ratio]

Exactly. And the seminary will remain. Compare this with the treatment of Lefebvre. They sought to condemn him for daring to challenge the wisdom of Vatican II--and for this purported outrage, they sought to shut down his entire seminary, one that was above reproach doctrinally and morally. Never mind that it was filled to the brim with orthodox devout young men studying for the priesthood! The patent hypocrisy and injustice of this is mind-boggling, especially when the Vatican's inaction regarding genuine corruption and apostasy is so obvious!

[broadsword]

That gay orgy seminary IS the fruit of Vatican II.
The destruction of the liturgy IS the fruit of Vatican II.
The disunification of the Catholic people IS the fruit of Vatican II.
The loss of Catholic faith and morals IS the fruit of Vatican II.
That Catholics can no longer be distinguished from the pagans around them IS the fruit of Vatican II.

And some here celebrate the wonderful reforms and plentiful fruit of VII and its Novus Ordo Mass in their efforts to sink the Church.

[AskStPhilomena]

While bishops and priests are buggering altar boys and seminarians in nearly every diocese around the world, what do you think the holy father is doing?
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apeurope_story.asp?category=1103&slug=Poland%20Pope%20Book
This brings back memories of the emperor Nero, who fiddled while Rome burned. Nero's last words which were "Qualis artifex pereo" (loosely translated "What a loss I shall be to the arts") are possibly also relevant to the current pontificate.

[BlackElk]

UR: Ummmmmm, at the risk of spoiling your schismatic fantasies' you might recall that "they" did NOT SEEK to condemn impudent and disobedient Marcel. Instead "they" (actually Pope John Paul II) gave cry7baby Marcel a new status: excommunicated. God rendered Marcel dead as an excommicatus. Also that is SSPX seminaries filled with disobedient anti-Catholic vipers studying to defraud the public in the role of illicitly consecrated priests, consecrated by the excommunicated few. You can put lipstick on these disobedient pigs but pigs they remain.