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To: Francisco
Are you a member of Neturei Nutballs Karta?

I hope you don't get ZOTTED too soon, boychick, because it's been a long since I kicked NK ass.

42 posted on 07/09/2004 12:20:12 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: Alouette

Relax; NK makes the Kahane crowd look nearly sane.


46 posted on 07/09/2004 12:25:47 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Alouette
I hope you don't get ZOTTED too soon, boychick, because it's been a long since I kicked NK ass.

Brian Klug - is senior research fellow in philosophy at St Benet's Hall, Oxford, and a founder member of the Jewish Forum for Justice and Human Rights

Brian Klug
Wednesday December 3, 2003

"From the beginning, political Zionism was a controversial movement even among Jews. So strong was the opposition of German orthodox and reform rabbis to the Zionist idea in the name of Judaism that Theodor Herzl changed the venue of the First Zionist Congress in 1897 from Munich to Basle in Switzerland.

"Twenty years later, when the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour (sponsor of the 1905 Aliens Act to restrict Jewish immigration to the UK), wanted the government to commit itself to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, his declaration was delayed - not by anti-semites but by leading figures in the British Jewish community. They included a Jewish member of the cabinet who called Balfour's pro-Zionism "anti-semitic in result".

"The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 has not put an end to the debate, though the issue has changed. Today, the question is about Israel's future. Should it become a "post-Zionist" state, one that defines itself in terms of the sum of its citizens, rather than seeing itself as belonging to the entire Jewish people? This is a perfectly legitimate question and not anti-semitic in the least. When people suggest otherwise - as Emanuele Ottolenghi did on these pages last Saturday - they simply add to the growing confusion...

"Equating anti-Zionism with anti-semitism can also, in its own way, poison the political debate."

51 posted on 07/09/2004 1:31:05 PM PDT by Francisco
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