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To: Luis Gonzalez

Luis, you made this clear claim:
"The illegal alien issue is created by the left so that the Buchanan right defects from the GOP."

I asked you to provde evidence of this. You haven't yet.

Instead, your reply contained no statements of fact, but presented two questions for me.

I will answer your questions briefly now, but in return I ask that you back up your claim with evidence or withdraw it.

Answers to your questions:
1) No, I don't think the 'illegal alien issue' is created by the left with the purpose of seperating Buchanan followers from the GOP.

I have followed this issue since the mid-80s when Buchanan was simply a former employee of GOP administrations and a journalist. Illegal immigration was an issue here in Southern California then.

But I don't need to disprove your claim since you've offered ZERO evidence for it. Support your claim and I'll address it in more detail.

2) Democrats have been growing entitlement programs here in the USA at a great rate since the 1930s.

Several architects and advisers to FDR on these programs were 'fellow travelers' or sympathizers with the world socialist movements.

The Johnson administration added a great deal of entitlement programs as well, and the programs grew and expanded through R and D administrations as well.

If you have a clear set of evidence to offer as to how these entitlement programs were initiated to CREATE a wedge issue about illegal immigration to seperate mainstream Republicans from the "Buchanan Right," I will certainly give your argument thought.





909 posted on 07/09/2004 5:14:44 PM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: ER_in_OC,CA; Luis Gonzalez
Luis, you made this clear claim: "The illegal alien issue is created by the left so that the Buchanan right defects from the GOP." I asked you to provde evidence of this. You haven't yet.

The left didn't create "the illegal alien issue". It is legitimate for all good people of this country to not want illegal aliens in their country. However, in this case, the left may be exacerbating the situation. If you look at the people who seem to have initiated both sides of this specific incident, you will see people who very well may be connected to the left.

On one side you have Joe Baca and other liberal Democrat politicians who are complaining that these sweeps need to be stopped because they depend on racial profiling.

On the other side of this incident you have union President Joseph N. Dassaro who is president of Local 1613 of the National Border Partrol Coucil, a division of the American Federation of Government Employees, which is the largest federal employees union in the country. He is defending these sweeps by his union members in a department whose agency head has been sick and out of work for some time.

Caught in the middle you have Asa and his CIC boss who are damned if they do and damned if they don't and it's right before election time.

JMO.

934 posted on 07/09/2004 5:35:26 PM PDT by FreeReign
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