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To: Dimensio; PatrickHenry; balrog666; js1138
...life does not, in fact, run counter to it. You need to look up the term "closed system".

Life is an open system, or rather an open process. Material systems are closed. The Second Law pertains to the latter. But abiogenesis says the latter becomes the former. All you need is to add a little sunshine, and viola! Life results!!!

This is a "just so" story -- no explanation given of how this stunning transition could have been effected; just glide over the "missing part" and pretend it's not missing. And then (try to) call it "science." Jeez!!!!

354 posted on 07/06/2004 1:16:07 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: betty boop
This is a "just so" story -- no explanation given of how this stunning transition could have been effected; just glide over the "missing part" and pretend it's not missing. And then (try to) call it "science." Jeez!!!!

Calm down, BB. No one is giving you a "just so" story. It's an area for investigation (unrelated to evolution), and it's being investigated. You gotta problem wid dat?

356 posted on 07/06/2004 1:21:00 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: betty boop
Life is an open system, or rather an open process. Material systems are closed. The Second Law pertains to the latter.

Wrong. Closed systems are systems which receive no outside input. Outside input is either more matter or energy. The only truly closed system is the universe itself.

Earth is not a closed system. So long as earth receives photons from the sun, it will be anything but a closed system.

Your misconceptions come from a fundamental misunderstanding of the definition of 'closed system'.
364 posted on 07/06/2004 1:27:28 PM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: betty boop
Material systems are closed.

Not necessarily. A closed system is one that has no energy exchange with something else. A Thermos bottle is an imperfect example. A living organism enclosed in a thermos bottle will eventually die. The Earth is not a closed system.

382 posted on 07/06/2004 2:40:54 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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