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To: edsheppa

"I am definitely a secularist but do not couple evolutionary theory with abiogenesis. That makes you wrong.

Furthermore, most do not - just poll the "secularists" posting to this thread and you will see. That makes you wronger."

What we have here a failure to communicate - my error. What I should have said is an "atheistic evolutionist" rather than "secularist." Apparently, there is a semantic difference that I did not realize.

As "I" see things, there are three basic groups of thought regarding evolution and abiogenesis:

(1) Atheistic Evolutionist - no God, no devine intervention, it just happened - an inate property of matter. Many different viewpoints on mechanisms, but all hold to no creator.

(2) Theistic Evoluntionist - Adds a "designer" in some way to the equation. Many different shades of these folks.

(3) Creationists. God did it all. Most, not all, hold to a literal belief in the Bible and the Genesis account - with differing "spins" of course.

Apparantly, a "secularist" could be in both group (1) and (2). So, I used the wrong term.


156 posted on 07/05/2004 4:52:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
What I should have said is an "atheistic evolutionist"

I suspect you're still wrong. Few at this site would consider themselves such but I bet most of them still would not couple evolutionary theory with abiogenesis - they understand the theory you see.

That said, my observation is that most creationists (even the great majority of them) do not understand that evolutionary theory and abiogenesis are different things. But their ignorance does not guve them pause. Hang around, you'll see what I mean.

177 posted on 07/05/2004 7:37:10 PM PDT by edsheppa
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