You truly are a sad case, and definitely not interested in factual history. Nolu Chan went through the trouble to dig up that information which is clearly germain to this discussion, (he even posted the links!) and you choose to call it "spam". I, as would most others on here, believe it is you who are "spam". You have nothing of redeeming value to add to this discussion, and your presence here detracts from those who are genuinely interested in facts. You really need to study up on things.
Don't go away mad - just GO AWAY!
we southrons need you around to torment (i enjoy tormenting posters like you-it is ONE of my MANY personal faults!).
PLUS, those who post IGNORANT, UNtruthful drivel out of the most extreme leftist southHATING halls of northeastern academia do MORE than i (and other PALEO_Confederates) can EVER do to attract NEW recruits for the continuing war against the arrogant,ignorant,hateFILLED,LEFTist,mean-spirited,racist,anti-semetic damnyankees.
free dixie NOW,sw
And you call him a shill.
Mr. Chan appears to believe in the 'quantity over quality' theory of discourse, which is all very well and good. He posted a substantial number of dispatches, reports, etc. which adds a substantial amount of bulk to the discussion, but does little to refute the idea that the United States, suddenly faced with a chaotic and hostile power on her southern frontier which was threatening to seize her possessions, manned and supplied her fortifications and put her navy to sea. Within a few days, her fears of Southern aggression were justified, as South Carolina began shelling one of those possessions.
Whether or not this mass of dispatches proves that Lincoln intended to do what he did has little bearing on the question which I have repeatedly asked, which is whether anyone can identify any particular cultural or political issue unrelated to slavery which caused the Southern states to secede in 1860.
Incidentally, it's 'germane'.
You would've made a great follower for Robespierre and Lenin.
I think that, on the whole, stand watie is the better candidate for a Jacobin or a Bolshevik, as he was the one who argued in post #73 that the Civil War was really a peasant uprising to slay the elites and establish a peoples' republic. I think that this theory of secession would likely have greatly alarmed Lee, Davis, or in fact anyone involved in the Confederate war effort.