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To: FITZ
she's no victim.

Certainly, she's the one who's mostly responsible for her fate.

What are we to conclude then? That society has no obligation to help her and others like her by criminalizing pornography? Should we wash our hands of her?

146 posted on 05/28/2004 7:31:57 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
That society has no obligation to help her and others like her by criminalizing pornography?

Society has given her all the help it legitimately can by prohibiting force (she had to be talked into doing the porn acting, not coerced into it) and fraud (she had to be told exactly what was required if she chose to accept, not covertly given it through the back door, so to speak). In short, society fulfilled its obligation, by insuring that she could just walk away. She chose not to avail herself of that opportunity.

148 posted on 05/28/2004 7:35:27 AM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leases Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Aquinasfan
That society has no obligation to help her and others like her by criminalizing pornography? Should we wash our hands of her?

Yep. That's my conclusion.

Not even God can help people who don't want to be helped.

As an Aquinas fan, you should have more insight into the nature of Free Will. She sins of her own Free Will.

You cannot make people virtuous by simply suppressing the instruments of their lust--they still lust and fall. Although, I suppose calling for the suppression of vice gives you a big warm feeling of pride.

Pride and Lust are both deadly sins.

303 posted on 05/28/2004 10:25:58 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: Aquinasfan
That society has no obligation to help her and others like her by criminalizing pornography? Should we wash our hands of her?

But how? An adult has certain choices to make, certain lifestyles they might wish to follow --- do we lock her up? Do police raid your home looking for porn you may or may not have? Does the government watch everything you buy to make sure you aren't contributing to this?

I don't think you can just make laws to save everyone who chooses to follow evil. Religion is supposed to show people the way --- but if they won't go --- if they wish to follow money and pleasure --- they've been warned --- just like all of us. And they still have time to find God if they would allow Him. Jesus didn't save everyone even when he walked on earth --- many chose to disregard him then and some chose to kill him.

338 posted on 05/28/2004 11:27:55 AM PDT by FITZ
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