LOL Or we could just read what the secessionists said in the official record, and they said clearly that secession was for slavery.
No, I didn't. When you claimed that I did, I asked you to cite where. You have not. Now you once again indicate that I did.
You said that blacks weren't universally against it. That implies it wasn't so bad, doesn't it?
**==** <- total leap by you, stop putting words in my mouth.
Im not. I asked you a question. Was slaver OK since not all black were against it?
Nowhere did I bash America. Once again, when you previously claimed that I did, I asked you to show where. Now you once again have stated something as fact that is not true.
You went on a rant about things being shredded or whatever. You weren't complaining of things being shredded?
Good Gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My exact words: money and power, which you cite, then say I only talk about money??
Money=power. You say that was his only motivation and again, you are delusional.
No, I didn't. In fact, I specifically said that 4CJ was mistaken in thinking that Lincoln's only motivation was money, which you cited and then proceeded to lie about.
You added power, which is the same as money. You're delusional in saying that Lincoln was only after money.
No, I didn't.
By only telling one side of the story, implications were made. It is a fact that slavery was terrible for a lot of blacks and many blacks tried desperately to escape it. A fact you guys don't seem to ever mention.
As a point of fact, your willingness to speak on the part of CSA blacks as though they were an aggregate people with totally coherent beliefs is probably one of the greatest insults that I can imagine.
I don't think I'm out of line in saying that slavery was a bad thing for blacks, like I said there is an Underground Railroad station near my house. At least they had friends in Illinois willing to help them.
Some do, some don't, but your need for absolutes seems to drive your posts.
You said that blacks weren't universally against it. That implies it wasn't so bad, doesn't it?
No, it doesn't. People aren't universally against abortion, yet no greater holocost against the innocent was ever carried out as the abortion industry in modern-day America. I stated a fact... you drew a conclusion.
Im not. (putting words in your mouth)
You've stated that I:
1. Said slavery was OK.
2. Bashed America.
3. claimed Lincoln only fought for money.
4. blacks were better off as slaves.
None of these can be found in any of my posts.
You went on a rant about things being shredded or whatever
Hamilton's vision for America was shredded... For this, if anything, I love our country more. A claim that dislike for Hamiltonian nationalism is "America bashing" (to use familiar words you can relate to) is beyond the pail, tinfoil hat material.
You added power, which is the same as money
Today moreso than in 1860. Lincoln was not 'rich,' yet proved himself as powerful as any man in his time.
By only telling one side of the story, implications were made.
If you think so, then by all means, tell the other side of the story; just don't lie about what I said thinking that it's helping you.
I don't think I'm out of line in saying that slavery was a bad thing for blacks,
Slavery was a bad thing for blacks, as it was for whites... as it was for Southerners... as it was for Yankees... as it was for immigrants... as it was for (need I continue)??? Your obsession with it as the single cause of secession, however, is factually incorrect; not to mention beyond the pale, tinfoil hat material.