[HarleyD]

I have to admit with our Arminian friends, unless you're into diagraming sentences this is a difficult read. I'm going to have to break it down.

[Corin Stormhands]

...unless you're into diagraming sentences this is a difficult read...

You know, I was never taught to diagram sentences.

[connectthedots]

I have to admit with our Arminian friends, unless you're into diagramming sentences this is a difficult read. I'm going to have to break it down.

If a guy can't write so his message can be clearly understood by someone of reasonable intelligence without having to carefully parse the words it isn't worth reading.

Thus, this Arminian notion of Liberty of the Will, consisting in the will's Self-determination, is repugnant to itself, and shuts itself wholly out of the world.

I love these kinds of conclusions. Kind of reminds me of a college philosophy instructor who said "Whenever an argument concludes the the phrase 'So, obviously..., you can be assured of one thing; there is nothing obvious about the conclusion."

[P-Marlowe]

I challenge anyone to diagram the first sentence. Anyone.

Having taken notice of those things which may be necessary to be observed, concerning the meaning of the principal terms and phrases made use of in controversies concerning human liberty, and particularly observed what Liberty is according to the common language and general apprehension of mankind, and what it is as understood and maintained by Arminians; I proceed to consider the Arminian notion of the Freedom of the Will, and the supposed necessity of it in order to moral agency, or in order to any one's being capable of virtue or vice, and properly the subject of command or counsel, praise or blame, promises or threatenings, rewards or punishments; or whether that which has been described, as the thing meant by Liberty in common speech, be not sufficient, and the only Liberty, which make, or can make any one a moral agent, and so properly the subject of these things.

Any takers out there?