[P-Marlowe]

Edwards wrote all that to say that the Will is not a free moral agent. It does not act on its own. It is bound by the person, who is the moral agent.

So he took that many words to create a straw man. Nobody has ever said that the will alone is a free moral agent or that the will acts wholly independent of extant circumstances and events and persuasions or that it is not bound in some way or the other by the creator.

That being said, why the rant against Arminians. Arminians don't even believe what Edwards is claiming they do.

[ksen]

Okay, so if the Will itself is not free, by your own admission, what is the "free" agent that makes Will make its decision for Christ?

[xzins]

Sorry, guys.

I read Vernon's Wesley sermon earlier today.

I have a vow not to read old english more than once on any given day! Ouch...it makes my head hurt....not the words but the patterns of speech and thought.