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I gave you the answer, and if you choose to ignore it, that is your problem.

There was no answer, only undocummented assertion. You have made the assertion that Acts 13:48 is somehow misconstrued by Calvinists (and apparently by every translation of the New Testament), perhaps you should present your case and put the bluster and B/S on hold for a time. perhaps you may not have noticed, but we do require evidence for assertions.

I gave you the answer, and if you choose to ignore it, that is your problem.

Your post 275:

Well, take a look at it. The fact is that this verse has been tragically twisted. The actual word used here for "ordained" includes no idea of pre-ordination or pre-destination of any kind. Even if it did, which it does not, it is an incredible extension to even suggest that they persevered to the end.

My post 280:

Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. -Acts 13:48 (NKJV)
Seems to me that the verb believed refers back to the relative clause as many as had been appointed to eternal life. It doesn't say "and as many as believed were appointed unto eternal life." Their appointment to eternal life preceded their belief, and moreover their belief manifest a prior distinction between them and the other Gentiles who did not believe. They (those who were appointed to eternal life) believed. The others (those who were not appointed to eternal life) did not. Seems pretty cut and dry to me, in English anyway.

Your answer was not ignored, it was directly addressed. You've given no evidence to support your assertion that the verse has been "tragically twisted." I gave you the plain grammatical meaning.

You've given no evidence to support your assertion that the word used includes no idea of pre-ordination or pre-destination of any kind. Again, I showed from the verse that the relationship between being ordained unto eternal life and belief has being ordained PRECEDING belief, which directly challenges the assertion that there is "no idea of pre-ordination."

You made the assertion that it is an "incredible extension" to assume that those people persevered. As has been pointed out, if ordination was unto eternal life, but those people didn't gain eternal life, then it wasn't really unto eternal life was it?

And now I've put forth evidence against yet another of your assertions: that we "choose to ignore" your answers.

Will you offer any further support of your assertions or substantive refutation of my examinations?