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To: Vernon
According to you, there are no "conditional statements," all is foreordained, predestined, and unchangeable. There is, for your informatin, a difference in having logic however faulty it might be, and having absolutely no logic whatsoever. It would be helpful if you knew the difference.

According to me there are no conditional statements? Feel free to provide a link to any post I've ever said that in.

Vern, you can sidestep the issue and continue the volley of insults, or you can actually address the point being made. It's really quite simply. I provided you with an example of a condition statement in the same form as the verses you provided. You provided those verses as proof against election unto salvation. Those verses do not prove that. In order to show that they did, you would have to show how the example I gave you was proof that you actually had the ability and opportunity to defy gravity, and thereby be able to step off a cliff and not fall.

You cannot argue that there is "no logic whatsoever" in my position. I have laid it forth logically. You can either show me how the logic is flawed, or you can accept that the verses do not say what you intend them to say and try some different verses.

323 posted on 02/10/2004 6:22:52 AM PST by Frumanchu (semper ubis sub ubis)
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To: Frumanchu
Noted and ignored as pure nonsense.
324 posted on 02/10/2004 6:24:10 AM PST by Vernon (Sir "Ol Vern" aka Brother Maynard, a child of the King!)
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