[Vernon]

Impossible...you have all the answers, as do the dwindling number of Calvinists as people understand the parsing and twisting.

The plain and simple sense of scripture is clear:

Acts 2:21: "Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved..."

Romans 10:13: "For, 'Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

As Adam Clarke so accurately states, "Those who seek for the plain meaning will find it.." "...but from their own creed, may continue to puzzle themselves and others; kindle their own fire, compass themselves with sparks, and walk in the light of their own fire, and of the sparks which they have kindled; and, in consequence, lie down in sorrow, having bidden adieu to the true meaning of a passage so very simple, taken in its connection, that one must wonder how it ever came to be misunderstood and misapplied."

2 Peter 3:16: "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

[Alex Murphy]

Nice proof-texting you got going on there, Vern.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Excuse me, we were discussing Acts 13:48. How about responding to that?

[Frumanchu]

Impossible...you have all the answers, as do the dwindling number of Calvinists as people understand the parsing and twisting. The plain and simple sense of scripture is clear:

Acts 2:21: "Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved..."

Romans 10:13: "For, 'Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Speaking of twisting and parsing, you have just taken two conditional statements and READ INTO them the universal ability and opportunity of man to meet the condition. Apparently we need to add remedial logic to remedial English.

"Whosoever can defy gravity will not fall when he steps off a cliff"

Please explain to me how this statement is rendered untrue by your inability to meet the condition of defying gravity.