What makes an Independent Fundamental Baptist church "Independent" and "Fundamental" and "Baptist?"
If you don't join a pure Calvinist church if there is such a thing, you stand a great chance of causing trouble under a comprising pastor or congregation if they accept what you believe, all the members will NOT accept Calvinism, there is NO way to avoid trouble even in a so called Independent Fundamental Baptist church.
The purpose of preaching and teaching is not to avoid trouble. If a Pastor preaches doctrine strongly, whatever the doctrine is, there will be division and trouble.
Mack: Its Ok come on out of the closet. :)
ksen: I'm out, and the fresh air is great!
Don't half too, you did it for me. You were not totally upfront about what you believe with me until last night.
I have been totally up front with you. This is not a stand I came to overnight. I did a lot of wrestling and praying about it. I now have a peace that I hadn't had before.
Whenever we talked about it I told you where I was.
Kevin I like you and am not going to pull any punches because of that, you should understand that, there is NO way you will not cause trouble if you remain in ANY kind of Independent Fundamental Baptist church.
I like you too Mack, and I don't expect soft punches from you. There is no way I'd avoid division in a church anyway because I would preach sound doctrine and I would preach it strongly. Even if I still believed exactly as you do it would cause division because today's Christians cannot abide doctrine when it is strongly preached.
There's nothing to address, Calvinism is false teaching. Ksen I ask and pray that you reconsider what you have embraced.
I appreciate and covet your prayers. Go ahead and show me where I am wrong in the things I have posted on this thread.