[Tamzee]

Bush is a leftist.

Silly rhetoric. Bush is center-right compared to the overall political spectrum, the exact type of candidate the right needs to use to stay in the White House. If we run someone more conservative than he is, the swing voters in the middle throw their votes to the current leftist.

If you don't like the system we have which forces us into this choice, blame the founders you pretend to respect. They created a system that would limit shifts of power to the opinions of broad coalitions. Broad coalitions are inherently moderate, great for stable and slow change in our country but much to our dismay and to the dismay of the Greenies at the edge of the left.

The founders forced us thankfully into a situation where if we want to force significant change in our government, it can only happen with a majority of the public behind us.... quit your useless whining and help us pull more lefties over to the right.

[OWK]

Silly rhetoric.

Absolute and undeniable truth.

He's a leftist.

' Bush is center-right compared to the overall political spectrum...

Compared to what?

Today's spectrum?

Perhaps by today's standards he's a "centrist" at best.

By the standards of even a few decades ago, he's a hardcore socialist.

And each passing year.. the standard gets lower, and lower and lower...

You are fueling the continuous drift leftward by pretending otherwise.

[Ches]

"help us pull more lefties over to the right."

How do you propose we do this? By moving farther left? Redefining left and right? Or inviting them over and them belittling them?

[Abe Froman]

The Founders don't need to be blamed for anything. It is the "overall political climate" of comprimise that is to be blamed. The Founders installed a system whereby the political climate would not be able to eliminate Constitutional limits on federal power, spending, and everything else. The modern political climate has, unfortunately, still found a way around the Constitution and as a result, those limits and our Constitional rights are now up for the popular vote, which was never intended (other than in the case of a Constitutional amendment.) Now that the Constitution has been thrown out the window and we are a popular democracy, voting for the (supposed) least of two evils simply brings us further down the path we don't want to go. The line must be drawn at some point, and while the results may not be initially pretty, things will have to get worse before they get better. The Republican Party must be tested to see if they are willing to actually represent Constituitonal conservatism or if power must be shifted en masse to another party that will.

Those that blindly cheerlead for Bush can do so all they want but you're not going to sway us. Bush is every bit as distasteful as Clinton or any one of the current Democratic candidates and perhaps even worse in his no-limit power grabbing and spending habits.