I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)

Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

[Dead Corpse]

Self important? You don't think that some 50,000 registered users here are all that significant? That we have no impact here? Do NOT denigrate this website again. Do so and I'll hit the abuse button even if no one else does.

You are confused on a great many things. No suprise considering your posting history and the politics you espouse.

And no. I firmly believe that in a free society you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard. Harsh language is no affront to me and as a former Marine I can cuss with the worst of 'em. You definately fit the bill to play the cat in the next round however.

[OWK]

Your remark--and the bile behind it--indicates more than mere curiousity animates your remarks.

My remark has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, other than your apparent inability to stand behind your own words.

I find it peculiar that you ping in others when you're getting spanked.

It bothers you to have others who disagree with you able to readily see your posts.

It bothers me not a wit...

Ping who you like.

It's simply funny to note that you don't have the stones to stand on your own two feet.

[Warren_Piece]

At least you're more honest than the other Disgruntled ones. I respect that. But anyone whose conservatism is so ivory-tower that they spout rhetoric about "foreign entanglements" even after 9/11 is living in a different reality than I. I cannot comprehend it. I understand it intellectually, but not in the places where life is really lived.

[meema]

ROTFLOL! Rrriigghhttt.

[OWK]

Now, back to OUR question - Does it matter to you whether Bush or a Democrat wins the election?

Does it matter?

Matter how?

Are you asking about my preference?

[Dead Corpse]

I draw the line at spitting on the Constitution. Not much of a stretch and my only real criteria. When Bush had "Constitutional questions" about the McCain-Feingold bill, he should have done his JOB and veto'ed the bill.

Childish rhetoric? Since when is sticking up for the very BASIS, the foundation of our REPUBLIC, "childish rhetoric"?

[OWK]

Childish rhetoric? Since when is sticking up for the very BASIS, the foundation of our REPUBLIC, "childish rhetoric"?

Anything contrary to the koolaid set, is "childish rhetoric".

C'mon man... you just understand.

He has to be a flaming liberal lefty now, so he can be conservative later.

Just you wait... it'll happen.

At midnight...

The Conservative Great Pumpkin rises from the leftist pumpkin patch, and leaves presents for all the apologists.

Just you wait Charlie Brown.

[Tamzee]

I can see how my position must be absolutely inconceivable to a spaghetti-spined comprimiser such as you.

The sneering name-calling when they are losing a debate is what I find so vile about the left... it is particularly loathsome when we see it on the right. So many of these "purist" conservatives use the same debating tactics as the "purist" lefties... why IS that?

[OWK]

The sneering name-calling when they are losing a debate is what I find so vile about the left...

It still hasn't dawned on you yet, that it is YOU who represent the left in this discussion.

Probably never will.

Oh well.

[Dead Corpse]

Ah yes. The whole "mission creep" argument. First the House, then the Senate, then the Executive, now we need the Executive AGAIN so we can ge tthe judiciary.

Enough G*dd*mn excuses for not doing their job.

[dmzTahoe]

"don't come back here and complain if we have a Democrat president."

"A democrat who believes we should give immediate citizenship to illegal aliens."

Or a Republican who believes in amnesty for illegals as well, just a bit slower to citizenship (more palatable, I assume).

"A democrat who believes we should have socialized health care."

Or a Republican who takes incremental steps to get us there.

"A democrat who will make judicial appointments that are so liberal we can expect to see more judges who support the more perverse elements of our society."

Or a Republican who allows Democrats to filibuster and set the benchmarkfor judicial appointments, who lets good men like Estrada hang out to dry for two years, who throws Pickering's appointment as a bone to conservatives, and who, if was serious, would use the nuclear option to break the judicial impasse."A democrat who will permit women to abort their children as the make their way down the birth canal."Or a Republican who "goes out on a limb" (ha ha) ny signing Partial Birth Abortin bill, when a large majority of Americans and the Congress agree, while hoping and praying that he will not have to appoint a SCJustice till after the next elections to avoid controversy and another Souter."

and you forgot- A Democrat who supports CFR...ditto Republican; and a Democrat who elarges government programs, spending, the NEA, Department of Education...and ditto Republican.

So, the bottom line. do we want a Demo to take us to hell in a handbasket quickly, or do we want a Republican to draw our suufering out over a longer period? Or the third option, get the message to GWB to act like a conservative.

[Warren_Piece]

Not exactly. What I'd like to know is if you think the United States would be better off with Bush or a Democrat in the white house. Abe Froman answered honestly. Let's take your supposition at face value and say there's not a nickel's difference between Bush and Kerry on the domestic side. OK, that's a wash, so what else can we base a decision on? The president's other job is Commander in Chief. Are they the same in that area? If not, no one can say that it doesn't matter which one wins, because EVEN IF they governed the same on the domestic side, the US will take different paths in foreign policy, depending on which one we elect. Of course, foreign policy may not be important to you. I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from when you say there's no difference between them.

[Abe Froman]

Yeah take the time to answer honestly and with integrity and you get a response showing a total lack of comprehension.

Unfortunately for you and your fellow moderates, Bush effectively betrays conservatism on a level equal to or greater than the Democrats, hence my lack of concern about a Bush loss.

When there's no difference (and in fact the (R) candidate has proven himself even worse in many areas) it becomes time to use a vote to send a message. It is us who has the long-term in view. The rightward drift of Republicans will never be stopped by continuting to vote for them. It will only be stopped when they stop winning, either temporarily with a wake-up call or permanently with a major shift to another conservative party.

[dmzTahoe]

Regarding Poohbah having to ping his buddies every time he comments...easy to figure, you've seen his kind in grade/high school...the Scott Farkus mentality: safety in numbers, tough when he has a pack around. I say, "misery loves company".

[Tamzee]

It is you people that are in the difficult position. You actually see some kind of difference between Bush and the Democrats.

Glad you could join us, Mr. Nader. I do hope you plan to be running again, it's lovely when the leftists split and are moronic enough to vote third party. It's really a riot because all of us here know that you guys spread out over there on the left get a lot more of what you want when you all vote together as a pack.

So please, Mr. Nader, run again and Pied Piper the less mathematically-inclined leftists off to a third party :-)

[Poohbah]

Interesting.

You're obsessed with whether someone can stand behind their words, and you measure that by how many people they ping, decreasing it as numbers go up.

Never mind that there are more people looking at the post, making the words more visible.

The only time calling in more numbers makes one less brave is in a physical fight--which this is not. Your insistence on using a paradigm appropriate only to physical confrontation is an interesting form of leakage.

I find it peculiar that you ping in others when you're getting spanked.

And why does that upset you so?

It bothers me not a wit...

After your extremely negative reaction to my pinging others...that remark is rather amusing.

It's simply funny to note that you don't have the stones to stand on your own two feet.

I'm not the one complaining when my posts are shown to a wider audience.

You are. And you seem to equate not being seen with some sort of bravery.

[Poohbah]

Regarding Poohbah having to ping his buddies every time he comments...easy to figure, you've seen his kind in grade/high school...the Scott Farkus mentality: safety in numbers, tough when he has a pack around. I say, "misery loves company".

Interesting. Another guy who views FR as some sort of physical altercation.

Again, this is interesting leakage.

[Tempest]

Hey Abe who do you think President Kerry is going to choose as head of baby executions on the supreme court?

I kind of hope that we as pure conservatives can help enable judicial activism that allows for gay marriages, as well as 3rd trimester abortions. Ohhhh the possibilities of sending that message. . .

[Tempest]

I'm tired of the whiney little idiots that are too myopic to commend President Bush on his many conservative acheivements.

[dmzTahoe]

Oh yeah, and where was "Conservative" GWB's mention of Pro-life in the SOTU Address? Was he ashamed to be pro-life, or ashamed to be conservative.

I'm sure he was going to mention it, but decided fighting steroid abuse was more important.