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To: CMAC51
Good posts, I agree with all except where you state conservatives cannot be satisfied. Thats wrong, and unless you are a Republican no matter what - you know it. Conservatives vote republican because that is the party that best represents our values. When Republicans deviate from that we become dissatisfied, would you have us compromise our values for the sake of the party?
I believe that most conservatives are very happy with the way GWB has conducted himself on issues that are obvious, but even you as a republican (unless you have never been a Repub. before clinton) cannot say that you are satisfied with alot of his domestic programs.
We cannot tolerate his domestic agenda (you know the issues) because ours is a consistent philosophy of government. We have not veered off course, the Elected Republicans have.
Excuse my run-on, I hardly ever post and never without alot of for-thought to my wording.
I had great hopes for GWB, I am dissapointed - I also realize the great dangers the left wishes to unleash upon America; We are basically demoralized with no true electable Conservative canidate. We are in the position of choosing between two wrongs.
Regards, Paul

58 posted on 01/31/2004 5:19:30 PM PST by arrow107
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To: arrow107
Pish--conservatives tend to feel sorry for themselves. Do you really think that the liberal left would leave Clinton after he signed Nafta or after he signed welfare reform? Do you really think that the liberal left would leave their president to allow a republican president win--whether he be left of middle, middle or to the far right?

Democrats never leave their party out of meaness to their president to try to punish him. They leave their party because they are forever leaving the party not leave their party for the sake of punishing. They want power and unless we are ready to fight them tooth and nail and with all our vigor we will always succumb to the democrats running the agenda.

Ler us work with the president and with the republican party. Imagine what President BUsh would do in a second term when he would not have to pander to the left because he was not facing reelection.

Medicare drug, reform of social security, millions of illegal immigrants are problems that need to be tackled. Health care is coming up. Do you really want the democrat president to be in charge of veto power even if their is a republican congress? You must be in lala land if you think we can accomplish more with a democrat president.

Posh
70 posted on 01/31/2004 5:43:14 PM PST by olliemb
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To: arrow107
would you have us compromise our values for the sake of the party?

The million dollar question. If you compromise one value, then all are at risk. If you maintain all your values, then you achieve nothing because no one will ever be in a position of power who continually represents all of your values. Where do you draw the line? The Republican Party is the only outlet with enough clout to affect any of your valued positions. The Republican Party being a synthesis of varied value groups can never wholly represent your value positions. Without the Republican Party, you lack effectiveness (don't even pretend that there is an effecive alternative, that wastes both our time). With the Republican Party you comprimise your total value position.

Rush has said many times that Conservatism means making the hard choices. 100% ideological choices are not hard. The choice is already programed for you by the ideology (insert values where necessary). The hard choice is determining when less than 100% is still the right choice.

93 posted on 01/31/2004 6:41:50 PM PST by CMAC51
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